DUP/IRA Alliance

[Blue Angel]

in my case no, i find him unlikeable because he criticise people for things he does himself. He misused his position as justice minister and abused the constitution at points while playing at been holier than thou. I also dislike his whole economic policies, much of which are analogues to maggies 'greed is good' outlook.

[bluedog]

blueangel said:

in my case no, i find him unlikeable because he criticise people for things he does himself. He misused his position as justice minister and abused the constitution at points while playing at been holier than thou. I also dislike his whole economic policies, much of which are analogues to maggies 'greed is good' outlook.

When you talk about "greed is good" Charlie and Bertie spring to mind.

[blueman]

setanta said:

blueman said:

Well lonely and all as I might get on my pedestal I would rather stand alone

Here I found you a like minded friend. No need to be lonely
www.myspace.com/aidanjohnwork
Explain to me how they are dictators? Wasn't there free and fair elections or can you tell me different?

Grineing is it you call it?
So you're going to do nothing. This raising up you refer to. Does that include attacking the DUP and Sinn Féin with bombs and bullets?
Yo Republic! Have you been cleansed yet? Coz blueman says I was cleansing you. Is Alliance around at all?
Two Protestants who are members here who have been born and raised in the Republic of Ireland, both 3rd level graduates and both free to do what ever the hell they want just like eveyrone else in this state.....


Give me an example that of Church interference that hasn't been addressed? They do the day to day running of most Primary schools OK.

Bit simplistic that.

Yes you're damn right. We should remove the Protestants from their positions as Judges and Solicitors and Barristors and make them become Gardaí.
Give me an example

The Protestant Population is rising and tell me more about this timewarp.


again I ask yoiu to qualify that accusaiton

Mate I don't follow any religion and it has no effect on my life at all in any way.


Blueman give me an example of this please
Blueman there have been Protestants at every level of the judecary and state institutions ever since the foundation of this state. There have been two Protestant Presidents!! We haev free and fair elections.
What do you expect to find?


There are pleny of Jews in Irish life!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Ireland
There's forest in Isreal named afrer Dev as well!

blueman said:

And then what are you going to do, start on mainland UK no doubt as I can see you have the little Irish plants already in place with the Republican Flag of Shame atarting to emerge at football and rugby grounds all over England as well as Scotland. Dark days loom for Ulster and the rest of the United Kingdom

Ye never know I might just do that. Everyone loves us.


blueman I've asked a few questions there so please answer them if you can and if you have any questions for me I'll be happy to answer.

Keep your friends as I would rather be lonely. The DUP/IRA Alliance makes me suspicious of the elections and the friendship they have since forged makes me even more suspicious. Perhaps the Englishman's lapdogs are unifying at their Master's commands. The rest of Ulster will not be so cheaply bought as the DUPERS and although I do not believe that political violence is the answer to any of our problems if someone decides to remove DUP/IRA from the scene, well who am I to argue.

Surely you can find another Proddie down in the Sectarian State apart from oul Republic to support your tissue of lies and the lie that all Proddies fill the Judicary is wearing a bit thin. I can fully understand why there are no Prods in the Garda though. The first Commissioner was an IRA Commander turned Blueshirt who went on to high distinction forming Fine Gael. I think his name was Eoin O'Duffy, a Fascist of Fascist's, but then again that is in keeping with the mindset of your Nation. Two so called Prod Presidents, I prefer to call them lickspittles, whoopee, but I suppose that is not much to boast about as your present Roman President equates Protestants with Nazis. So be they Roman or be they Protestant they are all Nazis.

How exactly do you have free and fair elections as every party represents Fenians no matter what variety they hail from. Fenian Fail, Fenian Gael or Sinn Fenian, hardly what you would call Parity of Esteem for the oul Republic and whatever other token Prods you have deemed fit to live in your Fenian State. Sorry, I forgot about the Progressive Democrats, but then again you rejoiced at their demise, so Michael McDowell had to go. Yea, really tolerant bunch of Irish Craicsters.

If the State of Israel [which you despise] was foolish enough to name a forest after DeVelera then I would make a suggestion to them. Every tree in it should be renamed after a Jewish Child that was murdered and maimed by the Nazi Butchers and War Criminals that DeValera and the Irish State hid and protected after the war. The Forest should be renamed 'The Forest of Irish Shame'.

Do not be so easily fooled by your own Irish Myth and Propaganda, take it from me not everyone loves you, a lot of people are wise to what you are all about. You might be comfortable in your wee Irish backwater, telling your own how affable and wonderful youse all are but the reality is the Protestants of Ulster have suffered terribly along with our Jewish brethern at your hands and the day of Venegeance by the Hand of God has yet to be made despite what the Pretensious Doctors and their Henchmen have been telling you.

[Jim]

bluedog said:

blueangel said:

actually i live in London mate as you are aware as you know me well you just don't recognise me under this name. I am not Sinn Fein's biggest booster by any mean as I see myself as socialist in the tradition of Connolly or Mellowes and at best would only loosely identify with Sinn Fein (that said I can identify them with a thousand times more than people like McDowell who as has been said is a Thatcher-lite).

Why so much hatred for Mc Dowell?Is it because he dislikes IRA/SinnFein?

They booted him out because hes a crap right wing tory politician with no interest in anything but the market.

[Blue Angel]

leaving aside all the other 'issues' up there once again Blueman you need to research your facts, Eoin O'Duffy was not the first Gardai commisioner, that would have been Michael Staines.

[bluedog]

blueangel said:

leaving aside all the other 'issues' up there once again Blueman you need to research your facts, Eoin O'Duffy was not the first Gardai commisioner, that would have been Michael Staines.

And that makes it ok then?

[blueman]

blueangel said:

leaving aside all the other 'issues' up there once again Blueman you need to research your facts, Eoin O'Duffy was not the first Gardai commisioner, that would have been Michael Staines.

I stand corrected but he was a Fascist of Fascist's just the same. At a speech in Armagh he promised to give Unionists the bullet. What I have read of him he sounds to me like a man in the same mould as Big Ian, shouting his big mouth off, stirring up strife and tension, and at the same time keep yourself as far from the fighting as humanly possible.

In the same way that Paisley formed several Paramilitary groupings O'Duffy was ditto. He formed the Blueshirts and in 1936 formed the Irish Brigade to fight for Franco in the Spanish Civil War. He sent 700 Irishmen to the battle front but like our illustrious leader didn't go himself. Like Paisley he used Religion to wind the people up pretending that they were doing God's work intimidating and killing others who had a different political or religious outlook from their own.

The DUP/IRA Alliance is all beginning to make sense at last. Power, Greed and Corruptible seed is what motivates them in their insatiable lust for the things of time and sense. Paisley, McCrea and the DUPERS have shown their true colours at last and even though their betrayal of the victims of Republican violence is shocking to some I am not in the least suprised by their antics. Conmen in the pulpit and conmen out of the pulpit. The latest lie to deceive and delude their flock is that Marty is thinking of getting 'saved' and that Big Ian is on the verge of getting him to convert. Just another fabrication to shut the dissenters within their own Sect up while they get their greedy hands on more filthy lucre.

Interesting to note however that Marty and Gerry have more principles than the DUPERS when it comes to money as Marty who drives from L'Derry every day only claimed £600 expenses for his first two months in office while Paisley who lives in Helen's Bay claimed £11,000. Ian Og is following in Daddy's footsteps as he claimed £12,000, well taught by his Daddy on how to amass a fortune at the expense of others.

[Jim]

Can you answer this for me blueman.

you dont like the current government, what is your solution?

[bluedog]

jim said:

Can you answer this for me blueman.

you dont like the current government, what is your solution?

HANG THEM.Starting with Poots by the ears

[blueman]

jim said:

Can you answer this for me blueman.

you dont like the current government, what is your solution?

The first thing is we must get away from is Sectarian Politics. The pretended extremists which currently occupy the corriders of power must be removed. Be you Roman Catholic/Protestant/Dissenter, that in itself is not the issue. We can disagree on religion but as far as our day to day life is concerned there is a lot of common ground. There are more sinister people wanting to keep us at each other's throats while they play God and divide the spoils of war among themselves.

In every generation these evil parasites prey upon the fears of the working classes and like the predators they are exploit the suspicions which we hold. They lie in the background and skillfully manouver the situation for their own selfish and greedy ends. The working class people suffer while these horseleaches grow fatter and fatter. Paisley, McCrea, Marty and Gerry are a prime example of corruption and greed, with their holiday homes and jetstyle lifestyles, while the poor RC's and Prods they have successfully used and abused live in poverty and deprivation. The people of Ulster and Ireland need to wise up and waken up to these Pretensious conmen and unite to the social and economic problems which have bedivelled this island for so long. We need to get down to bread and butter issues and when we unite we wil indeed be a force to be reckoned with but I suspect London and Rome know this only too well.

[Jim]

But thats the nature of Politics these days. Secterian politics will always be around but the difference is whether or not a tribal party gets into government, its getting them to work on those bread and butter issues. I'm happy with the current government, I voted for SF so I obviously want them in government, I didnt vote for the DUP but I accept their mandate to form a government, and I voted on the basis that I wanted these two parties to work toghether and I dont see how in the end that can be considered secterian politics, when the two "extreme" parties are getting along like theyve forgot everything.

We're still a deeply divided society and as the generations move on then we'll be able to vote based on policy instead of on a secterian basis.

I'll probably always vote on a class basis first, that means I'll not be giving my vote to either the SDLP, Alliance, or the UUP. I've no interest in a party of doctors and solicitors.

Do you accept the current agreement for government? That it must be a united government or no government?

[bluedog]

jim said:

But thats the nature of Politics these days. Secterian politics will always be around but the difference is whether or not a tribal party gets into government, its getting them to work on those bread and butter issues. I'm happy with the current government, I voted for SF so I obviously want them in government, I didnt vote for the DUP but I accept their mandate to form a government, and I voted on the basis that I wanted these two parties to work toghether and I dont see how in the end that can be considered secterian politics, when the two "extreme" parties are getting along like theyve forgot everything.

We're still a deeply divided society and as the generations move on then we'll be able to vote based on policy instead of on a secterian basis.

I'll probably always vote on a class basis first, that means I'll not be giving my vote to either the SDLP, Alliance, or the UUP. I've no interest in a party of doctors and solicitors.

Do you accept the current agreement for government? That it must be a united government or no government?

Unfortunately the working class Protestant electorate are faced with the horrible prospect of voting for a party of Doctors(false), solicitors,property tycoons, and worst of all connmen masquerading as Preachers of the Gospel.This description of course is of the evil Doctor and his thieving henchmen.The DUP are entirely tribal in nature, a better description would be a fascist cult or sect,and they have shown that they will do anything to their own people to further their personal greedy insatiable ends.Am I happy with the current government? NO.The nationalist,republican,electorate can vote for whom they wish,but from my point of view I still distrust Sinn Fein big time I also regard them as fascist and would prefer they had been treated up here like the southern electorate treated them.How can any sensible person be happy with a government consisting of those who have heaped so much misery on both the Protestant and Roman Catholic people in this country?

[Jim]

Then convince the working class protestants to vote for the PUP and get yourselves a working class party into government!

[Wasp]

I am working class, I always have been and always will be unless I get six numbers up. But I am not a socialist so what party Jim would suit me??

[bluedog]

wasp said:

I am working class, I always have been and always will be unless I get six numbers up. But I am not a socialist so what party Jim would suit me??

The best party Wasp will be when big ian and party and Marty and Gerry and co are no more ,I'll make sure you are invited for some devils buttermilk and a bit of line dancing to celebrate our glorious deliverance.