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Post by Harry on Apr 10, 2007 8:52:39 GMT
I'd be open to going to an Orange March/Party but I KNOW I wouldn't be safe. Living in Dublin, especially with my mates being chefs, we get to meet people from all over the planet and we get to sample their cultures. Vietnamese, Chinese, Thai, Phillipino Slovak, Polish , Russian, Brazilain, Nigerian, Ghanian, Morrocian and others. Over the last 5 years I've been to parties and see all their cultures, tasted their foods and heard their songs. I'm open to meet sample most things but it' strange that I can't sample a tradition born in Ireland mainly because of what my parents Christened me. I don't think it impossible for you to come along to an OO parade and not have a good time. The parades involving the OO are alot better than just the normal band parades. You'd find it interesting and you get plenty of beer down your neck. |
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Post by Harry on Apr 10, 2007 8:57:09 GMT
If you went openly as a republican then no. If you went as someone just trying to experience a parde and enjoy themselves then you should have no problem |
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Post by Harry on Apr 10, 2007 9:20:59 GMT
So when they hear my accent and ask my religion I'd still be safe? tattoos would be well covered!!! Maybe not. The majority would have no problem but there's always the risk of running into a few head the balls |
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Post by earl on Apr 10, 2007 11:35:07 GMT
The GAA is a sporting body which promotes Irish nationalism. It doesn't promote anything religious, and it doesn't discriminate on religious grounds. If you are politically a Unionist, then of course the GAA isn't for you. But don't go getting religion and politics mixed up. The fact that there are/were so many high ranking Protestant GAA members proves that the organisation is not sectarian. Also, I have yet to see any articles or news stories of a Protestant genuinely interested in the GAA being banned from joining or being discriminated against because of his religion.#
With the fact that the GAA is growing stronger internationally, picking up many international sponsors, this only further proves that point. It would seem that yourself and a very select few in the N.E of this island have that opinion, while the rest of the world begs to differ. Your attitude is very similar to DeValera,'The majority have no right to do wrong!'.
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Post by Harry on Apr 10, 2007 13:35:24 GMT
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Post by Wasp on Apr 10, 2007 19:53:31 GMT
So when they hear my accent and ask my religion I'd still be safe? tattoos would be well covered!!! Setanta in all honesty as long as you are with someone who knows the area you would be fine. I don't often go to parades and even when they are not on there is certain pubs I wouldn't go into because I wouldn't feel safe nor would I feel comfortable. And this me being a loyalist/Unionist. I have friends from Sligo who have come up for the twelth and they never had no problem. Most of the bars I drink in are mixed bars, one would have a majority of Protestants drink in it, but the plenty of Catholics who drink there never get hassle. Another bar I like to go to is a mainly Catholic bar, the Protestants that do go don't get hassle. Saying that if you are looking for trouble then you will probably get it. In all seriousness why don't you try to come up, even in a border town and watch a parade. The twelth parades are a great family day out and remember there are plenty of people who travel from the south to take part in parades as well as to watch them, so your accent would not be a problem. |
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Post by Wasp on Apr 10, 2007 19:56:49 GMT
Like Carsons old gaff that's now a hotel and nightclub? The invites open to you to WASP. Cheap beer in the Clibs as well! Now don't be complaining about the GAA if it's a fear of getting tarred and feathered in Harryville that's stopping you going! If I could go I would, to see what it's like. I would be worried though about being set up or being set upon if my identity came out. That's only me being honest. If we left out the heated posts or fall outs within the forum then I would be more comfortable with it. Thanks for the invite.  |
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Post by lochy on Apr 10, 2007 20:25:24 GMT
Protestants but not actual Loyalists. People who actively oppose Republicanism, people who actively support British rule in NI, people who are members of Loyalist flute bands etc, you think we would be welcome in the GAA  If you want token Protestants then just say token protestants? Bit harsh. So any protestant who embraces irishness is a token one? Why are Loyalists the ony true protestants? |
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Post by Harry on Apr 11, 2007 6:44:42 GMT
Protestants but not actual Loyalists. People who actively oppose Republicanism, people who actively support British rule in NI, people who are members of Loyalist flute bands etc, you think we would be welcome in the GAA If you want token Protestants then just say token protestants? Bit harsh. So any protestant who embraces irishness is a token one? Why are Loyalists the ony true protestants? Cos these Protestants that setanta is talking about most likely don't harbour any feelings on the idea of irish unity, they most likely wouldn't of supported Loyalism etc etc, they most likely wouldn't of fought against republicanism. We were talking about Loyalists getting involved in the GAA and the next thing it was well there is a team that comes from down here that is majority Protestant. Making that link Protestant=Loyalist??? Cos its not the same thing !!! If Protestants want to embrace Irishness then good luck to them, then we'll talk about Protestants joining the GAA and not mention Loyalists cos its different!!!! |
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Post by earl on Apr 11, 2007 9:38:53 GMT
But gansy loads of Protestant s play GAA Games. They're the majority on one of the teams near where I live......... well the really posh area I pass thru on the bus, it's near enough. Oh yeah, 'your area'! That's like the time I lived in Ringsend. Depending on who I was talking to, I'd say I lived in D4, or 'down on the docks bud'! |
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Post by Harry on Apr 11, 2007 13:45:20 GMT
Harry, Religion was only mentioned because WASP said this. Setanta you obviously have no idea about how Protestants in N.Ireland feel about the GAA. That's what I was responding to anyway. Wasn't a pop at you pal but merely pointing out to Lochy why i said what i said |
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Post by Wasp on Apr 11, 2007 16:32:11 GMT
Harry, Religion was only mentioned because WASP said this. Setanta you obviously have no idea about how Protestants in N.Ireland feel about the GAA. That's what I was responding to anyway. I think Setanta you should have highlighted Protestants in N.Ireland rather than just the word Protestants because that then is misguided and trying to portray I said something else. If it was a genuine error in your part then fair enough. |
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Post by Wasp on Apr 12, 2007 13:29:31 GMT
Your quote is there for everyone to see WASP. How much you willing to wager that I can pull up several Protestant inter-county players from Ulster? going back to the invite for beer. Do you really think I just said it to set you up? No I don't think you said it to set me up, it would be however a concern incase others heard about the likes of me coming down, if I invited you up for the twelth would you not have similar concerns especially if you thought there was the chance others overheard it who wouldn't take so knid to someone like you coming up. Several Protestant players out of thousands of Protestants IN N.IRELAND who would be able to play the sport doesn't count for much. |
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Post by earl on Apr 12, 2007 13:44:53 GMT
Your quote is there for everyone to see WASP. How much you willing to wager that I can pull up several Protestant inter-county players from Ulster? going back to the invite for beer. Do you really think I just said it to set you up? No I don't think you said it to set me up, it would be however a concern incase others heard about the likes of me coming down, if I invited you up for the twelth would you not have similar concerns especially if you thought there was the chance others overheard it who wouldn't take so knid to someone like you coming up. What do you think would happen? Lynch mobs?? The Dublin area has a larger population than the whole of NI, so they'd have a hard time finding you! Well, it highlights that the organisation isn't sectarian, and that's enough for the main arguements supplied in this thread! |
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Post by earl on Apr 12, 2007 13:47:26 GMT
better make it quick coz I'm moving out of Dublin in a few weeks! You better not be heading for Cavan like the rest of the Dubs! Coming into our county, stealing our women and taking our jobs! |
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