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Post by leeside on Jan 5, 2008 11:01:49 GMT
Taken from Calton: Have a guess who wrote it."If the Romans got the majority vote tomorrow it makes no difference as the fight for Ulster goes on unabated. Everybody thinks once the Romans get .00001% of a majority that it is all over for the Freedom-loving people of our country but they are seriously mistaken. When the Romans were in the minority they didn't accept the democratic wishes of the majority but adopted the Armalite/Ballot Box strategy and murdered, maimed, intimidated and ethnically cleansed people all over Ulster. They even murdered and maimed hundreds of their own people in their mad blood lust and the recent brutal murder of Paul Quinn shows that they are still hellbent on destroying anybody who dares to defy them or offer any resistance to them. Even if the worst comes to the worst and the O'Irish Nazis get the majority there is nothing to stop the people of Ulster from resisting Plastic Paddy and his warped ideology and from trying to win back Ulster's Freedom from these sadistic butchers and their horrible regime. Just because Big Ian and the DUPERS have buckled to Rome and her assassins doesn't mean the rest of us have to follow their cowardly ways. The fight goes on and on and on......The problem with the Militant O'Irish Roman Tattie Heeds it that their vile tactics were allowed to work in the Sectarian 26 Counties from 1916 until the present day. Successive British administrations have allowed the bead-rattlers to get away with Sectarian genocide in Ulster since the 1960's. Ratzi the Nazi has a whole bunch of O'Irish Nazis hellbent on turning Ulster into the same Mono-Religious, Mono-Cultural, Mono-Political, brainwashed, braindead, Gaelic hellhole that presently masquerades under the laughable name of the Free State. The only thing it is Free from is Protestants as they have systematically cleansed their Sectarian cesspit from those of a differing Religious or Political persuasion. There are still enough Protestants in Ulster to stem the Militant and Aggressive Roman tide and try to keep our country Free for future generations."
That guy has got some serious issues
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Post by Jim on Jan 5, 2008 13:58:01 GMT
Are you sure he doesnt live in ancient rome?
his opinions are ancient enough.
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Post by Blue Angel on Jan 5, 2008 20:32:13 GMT
fuck me i didn't know ireland had already been partitioned in 1916 - aidan has stuck a great blow for historians everywhere there!
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Post by Blue Angel on Jan 5, 2008 20:34:03 GMT
at some point i expect to see this fellow refered to in connection with a serial killing - whether as the victim or the perpeatrator is the only thing i am not sure of yet ....
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Post by leeside on Jan 5, 2008 20:45:49 GMT
It's not Aidan. Its the other looney toon 'Blueman'.
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Post by Blue Angel on Jan 5, 2008 20:53:00 GMT
cloned from the same cells somewhere in a research lab - blueman gave up here as he couldn't get a rise out of people after a bit as he just tended to be ignored - which is why i guess we don't see him here any more.
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Post by Wasp on Jan 5, 2008 21:17:14 GMT
Are you all saying that Bluemans post is totally wrong? Is there no truth in it at all or is it all lies? Serious question BTW.
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Post by Blue Angel on Jan 5, 2008 21:44:29 GMT
it's bigoted bullshit is all it is - if i wrote crap about that like protestant id expect setanta to jump all over me or harry.
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Post by Blue Angel on Jan 5, 2008 22:16:56 GMT
wasp it's impossible to ask a serious question about a post like that - it would be like taking eejits who shout 'orange b****rd ' seriously to draw you a parallel that may illustrate how blueman is coming across there. we are giving him too much credit by even discussing that post - it was put up as an example of stone-age thinking at it;'s very finest in a lighthearted moment and that's about all the time it should be granted.
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Post by Jim on Jan 5, 2008 23:58:53 GMT
Are you all saying that Bluemans post is totally wrong? Is there no truth in it at all or is it all lies? Serious question BTW. I'd say its highly ignorant and out of touch with any sort of reality. He sounds like the orange version of Ruari O Bradaigh.
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Post by leeside on Jan 6, 2008 15:40:52 GMT
Are you all saying that Bluemans post is totally wrong? Is there no truth in it at all or is it all lies? Serious question BTW. Personally, I think it looks like the ramblings of a seriously deranged and bigoted individual who is consumed with hatred. Someone who clearly has some mental issues. Maybe even paranoid schizophrenia. I'm not surprised that you came to his defence, though. You did the same when Aidan came on the scene and spouted his crap. What do you think of Blueman's post yourself, Wasp. What parts do you agree/disagree with?
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Post by Blue Angel on Jan 6, 2008 16:03:38 GMT
purely laughable nonsense if it were not for consequences of such idiotic outlooks from both sides. The burning need to see the rc church as behind every evil ever is apparent throughout, especially when he tries to shove the pope in as though everyone in ireland is waiting with bated breath for pope benedicts word on all things.
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Post by Wasp on Jan 6, 2008 21:06:54 GMT
In relation to that we are expected to take those who killed and maimed us orange bastards for years seriously, as in the ira.
Apart from that I appreciate all your answers.
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Post by Blue Angel on Jan 6, 2008 21:18:56 GMT
if we don't take the ira/uvf/british army seriously and involve the in the peace then we will back with another war eventually. And I was not implying you are an orange b****d - i have scant time for fools who shout that and call themselves republican but i used it to show that from my perspective blueman is appearing just as stupid as the fools who shout that sort of stuff. He hasn't got a clue what he is on about at all.
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Post by Wasp on Jan 6, 2008 21:50:37 GMT
You are entitled to your opinion but I have heard blueman defend Catholics in Ireland a number of times and even welcomed actions taken by the R.C Church against the ira.
First of all one reason I came to Aidan's defence was because he was an outspoken loyalist who said his piece (alledged loyalist that is) and it didn't go down to well with those from the republican side. Although I did not agree with much of what he said, I still thought he was entitled to air his views, and not forgetting I all to often found him hilarious as he had me wiping tears from my eyes with his replies. Secondly he was special needs or fell into that category and I genuinely felt sorry for him as he lived in sheltered housing. I can't help my nature in that.
I will try to answer this as best I can and I hope it is not taken out of context like alot of my posts usually are.
BM "If the Romans got the majority vote tomorrow it makes no difference as the fight for Ulster goes on unabated. Everybody thinks once the Romans get .00001% of a majority that it is all over for the Freedom-loving people of our country but they are seriously mistaken."
There are those who believe this to be the case and it is a worry for many Unionists and there are those within Unionism who will take up arms in the event of a U.I. So there is some truth in that.
BM "When the Romans were in the minority they didn't accept the democratic wishes of the majority but adopted the Armalite/Ballot Box strategy and murdered, maimed, intimidated and ethnically cleansed people all over Ulster. They even murdered and maimed hundreds of their own people in their mad blood lust and the recent brutal murder of Paul Quinn shows that they are still hellbent on destroying anybody who dares to defy them or offer any resistance to them."
There is turth in this and I ask any of you to prove that this wasn't the case. You could try and argue that members of the ira did not kill Quinn but I think those who live in the area, those from the same republican pedigree should know there own in that are better than anyone else. This isn't Unionist claims, it is sinn fein voters making the claim.
BM "Even if the worst comes to the worst and the O'Irish Nazis get the majority there is nothing to stop the people of Ulster from resisting Plastic Paddy and his warped ideology and from trying to win back Ulster's Freedom from these sadistic butchers and their horrible regime."
IMO when he says O'Irish nazis he means the ira and many of thier supporters, not Irish people in general or Catholics in general. The word nazi has been linked to the ira who collaborated with them. As I said before Dublin is the only cith in Western Europe to have a statue of a nazi collaborator and commemorate him. The ira are sadistic butchers, if we were able to see the autopsy reports of many of its victims who were brutally tortured, I think it would be hard for anyone to deny it.
BM "Just because Big Ian and the DUPERS have buckled to Rome and her assassins doesn't mean the rest of us have to follow their cowardly ways. The fight goes on and on and on......"
The fact that their has been those within the Catholic church who supported/sympathized and were members of the ira I can understand where he is coming from. If you take the massacre of Protestants through the centuries at the hands of Rome, certain priests here involvement with the ira such as Chesney or Priest home being used to recruit ira members, the pope sending a crucifix to the hungerstriker (condoning suicide) etc, I can also see where he is coming from. That does not mean that I think Irish priest = provo, because I do not believe that at all in anyway shape or form.
BM "The problem with the Militant O'Irish Roman Tattie Heeds it that their vile tactics were allowed to work in the Sectarian 26 Counties from 1916 until the present day."
Concerning the present troubles (from the last 3/4 decades) I agree in part with what he said. Extradition and wanted terrorists being allowed to walk free after commiting atrocities here is a good example why. Then take the fact the republic has been a cold house for most Protestants since its formation even up to this day. Although IMO it is nowhere near as bad now but events like Plumtilla school among others just reinforce these fears and concerns. But that is much like anywhere I suppose. So I do see his point.
BM "Successive British administrations have allowed the bead-rattlers to get away with Sectarian genocide in Ulster since the 1960's"
Sadly IMO this is true.
BM "Ratzi the Nazi has a whole bunch of O'Irish Nazis hellbent on turning Ulster into the same Mono-Religious, Mono-Cultural, Mono-Political, brainwashed, braindead, Gaelic hellhole that presently masquerades under the laughable name of the Free State."
If this is his opinion then he is entitled to it. N.I has many many problems which are all to sad and obvious but I for one would hate to belong to the republic. This would be because of Church involvement in health and education etc which I feel brainwashed many Irish Catholics for centuries although with all their scandal IMO Irish Catholics are straying from the church and standing up to it which has to be welcomed considering the same church treated its own people with inhumane cruelty all to often. Then there are the other obvious reasons such as not having a monarchy etc.
BM "The only thing it is Free from is Protestants as they have systematically cleansed their Sectarian cesspit from those of a differing Religious or Political persuasion."
Obviously it is free in many ways especially since it is trying in part to rid itself of the Church's grip, but he has a point on Protestants being cleansed from the country. Now that doesn't mean that I am saying that Irish = get rid of Protestants, because I am not, but sadly there have been those with alot of success in this field. I have posted elsewhere from Protestants in border areas and their concerns. There are those who will say all this talk about cleansing Protestants is nonesense, there are those who will exaggerate it but it did happen. So in part I agree with part of what he has said.
BM"There are still enough Protestants in Ulster to stem the Militant and Aggressive Roman tide and try to keep our country Free for future generations."
This is quite true, although others IMO would use the word republican instead of Roman tide. More and more moderate Unionists are taking a more hard line approach because of the current situation. Most of this is thanks to sinn fein and there failure to understand Unionism, and to insult them with their outreach programmes while all to often trying to rewrite history. Especially when it concerns what Protestants endured.
While I do not agree with all of this post, there are parts as I have said that I do agree with and understand some of the points he is making even if I may not agree with all in how it's worded.
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