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Post by Harry on May 23, 2008 6:17:59 GMT
Harsh reality is that everyone at Milltown where there to mourne 3 IRA volunteers. Everyone there were Republicans or at the very least sympathisers. It was returning the serve and i would of fully supported this attack in those times.
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Post by Jim on May 23, 2008 10:20:36 GMT
My mam and da and entire family was at that funeral, you're saying you support throwing grenades into a crowd of people at a funeral, what the fuck mate? If I said that I'd be hauled over the coals and lynched by people on this website.
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Post by leeside on May 23, 2008 13:10:51 GMT
Harsh reality is that everyone at Milltown where there to mourne 3 IRA volunteers. Everyone there were Republicans or at the very least sympathisers. It was returning the serve and i would of fully supported this attack in those times. Harry, do you think for example that at the funeral of John Gregg, where thousands of loyalist mourners were gathered, that each and every one of those mourners are loyalist or at the very least sympathisers and had a republican opened fire and threw grenades indiscriminately at that crowd that he would have been justified in his actions in the same way you believe that Stone was at Milltown? |
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Post by Harry on May 23, 2008 15:05:24 GMT
Let me tell you something. If you wanted a war then you were going to get a war. There are those on here who have no time for any of the violence and view all violence the same be it Republican or Loyalist. To those my views may be harsh and i apologise to those people for it but i'm honest.
They were 3 murdering IRA scumbags that were being buried. If the SAS hadn't of sorted them out then they would of happily planted a bomb and ran and left people to die. Everyone at that funeral knew what the 3 dead were about so by attending such a funeral you were all the same to me.
I'm not going to lie or pretend how i felt. If ever there was a chance to wipe out some IRA then that funeral was it. I have no sympathy for the IRA or for those who mourne their deaths. The IRA were the enemy of my community and we were at war.
Times change and i have changed and i would no longer believe that what Stone did has any place in todays NI but then i firmly believed it was Justice.
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Post by leeside on May 23, 2008 15:11:19 GMT
Do u think that if a republican had done the same thing only with the situation reversed that he would have been justified in the same way that you and other loyalists believe that Stone was.
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Post by Harry on May 23, 2008 15:48:40 GMT
Do u think that if a republican had done the same thing only with the situation reversed that he would have been justified in the same way that you and other loyalists believe that Stone was. Don't try and ask me to justify any attack on my community. Would it of been justified to you?? That is what you should be asking. I won't answer such question because we could go on a merry go round. It was justified to me because of the IRA and their actions against my commuinty. |
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Post by collina on May 23, 2008 18:48:25 GMT
He has longed for the simple things in life but the path he chose prevents that. I feel sorry for him. You feel sorry for a man who has admitted to murdering innocents? But Rosemary Nelson had it coming? |
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Post by Wasp on May 23, 2008 19:12:57 GMT
I feel sorry for anyone that has mental issues including aidan who used to be on the old forum.
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Post by Jim on May 23, 2008 21:11:59 GMT
Let me tell you something. If you wanted a war then you were going to get a war. There are those on here who have no time for any of the violence and view all violence the same be it Republican or Loyalist. To those my views may be harsh and i apologise to those people for it but i'm honest. They were 3 murdering IRA scumbags that were being buried. If the SAS hadn't of sorted them out then they would of happily planted a bomb and ran and left people to die. Everyone at that funeral knew what the 3 dead were about so by attending such a funeral you were all the same to me. I'm not going to lie or pretend how i felt. If ever there was a chance to wipe out some IRA then that funeral was it. I have no sympathy for the IRA or for those who mourne their deaths. The IRA were the enemy of my community and we were at war. Times change and i have changed and i would no longer believe that what Stone did has any place in todays NI but then i firmly believed it was Justice. Then he should have attacked the IRA and not people attending a funeral. Thats not a war, throwing grenades into a crowd of mourners isnt a war, considering they would have been no where near where he threw him! |
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Post by Wasp on May 23, 2008 21:17:45 GMT
And Jim many at the funeral if not most supported the so called 'war' where innocent people were blew to bits by the ira, remember Enniskillen etc etc.
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Post by leeside on May 23, 2008 21:53:40 GMT
Do u think that if a republican had done the same thing only with the situation reversed that he would have been justified in the same way that you and other loyalists believe that Stone was. Don't try and ask me to justify any attack on my community. Would it of been justified to you?? That is what you should be asking. I won't answer such question because we could go on a merry go round. It was justified to me because of the IRA and their actions against my commuinty. Christ, dude, i wasn't asking you to justify anything!! Do you not understand why im asking you this question?? You said that at the time you supported Stone's actions at Milltown. What i was trying to do is give you some perspective as to how a republican would view it by reversing the scenario. It was an honest question and not an attempt to catch you out. No need to get so defensive. |
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Post by Jim on May 23, 2008 22:40:57 GMT
And Jim many at the funeral if not most supported the so called 'war' where innocent people were blew to bits by the ira, remember Enniskillen etc etc. No. Many people at the funeral supported the unification of their country. I don't know people who support the Enniskillen bomb. You'd be in buckin' tears if I said the same thing about you lot, that loyalists supported the murders of innocent catholics just because they were catholic and seen as the enemy hording the enemy, and that you think its the right thing to do. Wise up! You support a man throwing grenades into a crowd at a funeral. Can't play it both ways. |
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Post by Jim on May 24, 2008 1:30:17 GMT
Aye, but if me or you were to come out with the same shite we'd be called evil and murderers and all the usual unionist shite.
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Post by Harry on May 24, 2008 6:40:02 GMT
Don't try and ask me to justify any attack on my community. Would it of been justified to you?? That is what you should be asking. I won't answer such question because we could go on a merry go round. It was justified to me because of the IRA and their actions against my commuinty. Christ, dude, i wasn't asking you to justify anything!! Do you not understand why im asking you this question?? You said that at the time you supported Stone's actions at Milltown. What i was trying to do is give you some perspective as to how a republican would view it by reversing the scenario. It was an honest question and not an attempt to catch you out. No need to get so defensive. Leeside read what you asked me. You asked me to justify it. I know exactly what you were trying to do and again its not me you need to be putting a question like that to. Only a Republican could answer such a question. Would the actions of Loyalists of left some Republicans feeling the way i would of?? I'm not getting defensive buddy. I just won't allow myself to be force into black and white scenarios. There is always to much grey  |
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Post by Harry on May 24, 2008 6:45:16 GMT
Aye, but if me or you were to come out with the same shite we'd be called evil and murderers and all the usual unionist shite. Jim you see it as an attack on innocent mourners. I see it as an attack on the IRA and its cronies. You wouldn't hear me jumping up and down playing the moral high games. It was an IRA funeral. End of as far as i'm concerned. It might be difficult to listen to you as your family were there and you feel i'm justifying attacking your family which isn't my point. I have no personal feelings towards anyone there. My knowledge of your family being there is only with hindsight, i giving you honest views. |
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