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Post by Wasp on Sept 12, 2007 16:59:29 GMT
Where did I imply that the south hates everything British?
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Post by Wasp on Sept 13, 2007 17:47:42 GMT
Nah no response about the reform guys article. Why do you ask?
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Post by Wasp on Sept 14, 2007 14:31:26 GMT
Well then you would already have seen my replies and comments, so not much point reminding you again. Also could you show me again where I implied that the south hates everything British instead of telling me to read your posts.
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Post by Wasp on Sept 17, 2007 15:35:22 GMT
Well you will notice I was talking about republicans and didn't you yourself say you would oppose any orange march in the republic?
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Post by Wasp on Sept 18, 2007 20:28:40 GMT
No you said if the OO wanted to have another march then you would be opposed to it until they change themselves in the north.
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Post by Wasp on Sept 19, 2007 17:49:26 GMT
Would out in the arse end of nowhere be ok? I thought part of Unionist culture/way of life etc etc was guaranteed/respected etc in a U.Ireland. Obviously this isn't the case, unless of course it is in the middle of a field somewhere.
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Post by Wasp on Sept 19, 2007 21:46:30 GMT
Why then try to claim that our culture etc is guaranteed in the event of a UI? At the end of the day republicans such as yourself hate the OO and even fellow Irish members born and bred in the republic are opposed by the likes of yourself of having any parades. These are fellow Irishmen but because they are in the OO then it is a no no for the likes of yourself. Some tolerance and inclusiveness isn't it???
Funny thing is republicans hate the republic being classed as a whole by Unionists/loyalists because of the opinions of republicans up here, yet when the shoe is on the other foot it is a different story. Unionists cannot judge people from the south because of republicans from the north (which I agree with), but fellow irishmen in the south are to be judged because of republican opinion of them in the north.
Total blatant hypocrisy. Why don't you organize a petition for your fellow Irishmen to only be allowed to walk in country lanes, while you support republicans to walk anywhere on Irish soil......
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Post by Wasp on Sept 20, 2007 19:20:24 GMT
Take your arguement up with OO historians. Talking of arrogance you have a problem with them distorting facts to suit there own agenda?? FFS take a look along with your party etc in a big mirror. Now you want them, to recognise a, b, c and you won't have a problem with them. Again total hypocrist, well you recognize point A which is acknowledging the ira carried out a sectarian hate filled campaign and condemn at least some of the sectarian outrages and many unionists won't have such a problem with you and sinn fein.
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Post by Wasp on Sept 20, 2007 19:57:02 GMT
I know you have before said certain things were wrong etc but you have to understand that you cannot bleat on about the OO recognizing this and that when you fail to do the same with ira violence.
You agreed with me oon the anthem and that GSTQ should have been played in Belfast, I said the same to do with the soldier song so there is some common ground at least. But it is not the common ground that most if not all Unionists desire when it comes to the sectarian campaign of the ira and this is a massive stumbling block that I cannot ever see being passed.
You say it resolves nothing, if you and sinn fein only realized how very wrong you are in this when it comes to Unionist thinking.
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Post by Wasp on Sept 21, 2007 18:23:04 GMT
Your big point is a very small point Setanta, so no more violence makes it all ok then? BTW I am glad you are comparing Unionist desires with south park, just shows how insensitive and how little you care about the feelings of the 'other' people in N.Ireland.
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Post by Jim on Sept 21, 2007 18:37:02 GMT
Did you watch the video?
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Post by He_Who_Walks_in_The_Wilderness on Sept 22, 2007 15:29:57 GMT
You weren't shy about making accusations on the treatment of Protestants in the Free State in the past, is why. Neither was Bluey or Wilderness. I made no accusation, merely posted an articule hypothesizing what some people believe happened to unionists in the now RoI in order to, to gauge the excuses sorry i ment reaction coming from republicans, the tone and type of excuse came as no surprize. It comes as no surprize that republicans suffer from the myopia that all people who believe they are rightous suffer from. Its a unforunate irony that more evil has been done in the world throughout history in the name of rightousness then has ever been done in the name of evil, the americans are 'rightously' bombing iraq, al quidia are 'rightously' blowing up the infidadel, the PIRA 'rightously' blew up inocent british citzens, it seems you can jusitfy any evil as long as you believe you are 'right'. For my own part i conden the death of any innocent person, i have not nor will i ever try and justify the death of any innocent at the hands of loyalists. The conflict in northern ireland was a viciouis, sectarian conflict perpuated by both republicans and loyalists, both sides engaged in tageting and killing innocent people in thier name of thier causes and anybody who claims support or has supported the paramiltary orginzations in northern ireland wether they be republicans or loyalists should be ashamed of themselves and until we reach a point were those supporters can drop the propoganda and for once be truthful of what the conflict was really about in northern ireland, sheer abject hatred of the other side and nothing more, then there will never be a resolution of the conflict, there will never be true peace. For my own part i offer true and abject remorse that any innocent catholic was murderd in my name |
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Post by Wasp on Sept 22, 2007 20:06:54 GMT
You weren't shy about making accusations on the treatment of Protestants in the Free State in the past, is why. Neither was Bluey or Wilderness. I made no accusation, merely posted an articule hypothesizing what some people believe happened to unionists in the now RoI in order to, to gauge the excuses sorry i ment reaction coming from republicans, the tone and type of excuse came as no surprize. It comes as no surprize that republicans suffer from the myopia that all people who believe they are rightous suffer from. Its a unforunate irony that more evil has been done in the world throughout history in the name of rightousness then has ever been done in the name of evil, the americans are 'rightously' bombing iraq, al quidia are 'rightously' blowing up the infidadel, the PIRA 'rightously' blew up inocent british citzens, it seems you can jusitfy any evil as long as you believe you are 'right'. For my own part i conden the death of any innocent person, i have not nor will i ever try and justify the death of any innocent at the hands of loyalists. The conflict in northern ireland was a viciouis, sectarian conflict perpuated by both republicans and loyalists, both sides engaged in tageting and killing innocent people in thier name of thier causes and anybody who claims support or has supported the paramiltary orginzations in northern ireland wether they be republicans or loyalists should be ashamed of themselves and until we reach a point were those supporters can drop the propoganda and for once be truthful of what the conflict was really about in northern ireland, sheer abject hatred of the other side and nothing more, then there will never be a resolution of the conflict, there will never be true peace. For my own part i offer true and abject remorse that any innocent catholic was murderd in my name Excellent post and one that I agree with completely. |
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