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Post by Wasp on Oct 27, 2007 15:43:40 GMT
Perhaps Mrs Lo should have went to the twelth in Coleraine last year where the Chinese community played a big part in the celebrations including the parade itself. Everyone who lined the streets clapped as the Chinese displays passed. Great to see.
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Post by An Fear Dubh on Oct 27, 2007 18:56:12 GMT
I do not think Anna Lo was trying to object or restrict any parade. Donegall Pass is city centre area that is mainly Protestant at the bottom and the Chinese mainly live middle to top. She was approached by a constituent who said that a past parade had prevented her from attending work (she was a nurse). And Anna Lo wrote to Mr Spence the band leader and suggested that better public notice (to those are not likely to know when these parades are expected) could help people like this nurse. As she could allow for the delay and leave earlier or take the day off. Anna Lo got his name from the PSNI, as the best person to contact but he took exception, suggesting that highlighting him endangered his life, by identifying him as a loyalist band leader.
So whether the Chinese community took part in any parade or not has no bearing on the points here.
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Post by Shades40 on Oct 27, 2007 20:32:55 GMT
Stuck in the stone age dancing round big drums, great video on Slugger to prove it and the adage of the BNP to bolster it. |
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Post by earl on Oct 31, 2007 11:39:20 GMT
Polish and Chinese being attacked! Being a Republican gets easier by the day! All it takes is a few friends or relatives in the south, or some form of all Ireland Polish/Chinese group, and we'd have ourselves some new recruits.
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Post by earl on Nov 22, 2007 11:52:53 GMT
"highlight flaws in the procedures currently governing parades". Instead, they have shown us a working demonstration of how the parades commision are protecting residents, in certain cirmcumstances, from bully-boy tactics. |
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Post by Wasp on Nov 22, 2007 16:37:05 GMT
What bully boy tactics?
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Post by earl on Nov 22, 2007 17:12:16 GMT
Like what the title of this thread is called! |
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Post by Shades40 on Nov 22, 2007 18:11:10 GMT
Bully boy tactics won't work for them anymore.
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Post by Wasp on Nov 22, 2007 21:29:21 GMT
So the title of this thread is precise, accurate and true? Again what bully boy tactics?
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Post by earl on Nov 23, 2007 12:04:42 GMT
So the title of this thread is precise, accurate and true? Again what bully boy tactics? WASP, I'm talking about this particular band. They have a history of bigoted stunts such as playing sectarian tunes passing a local church while a funeral was taking place. Anyway, look at the details of this whole case. The solution to having George Spence's safety put in danger by his name being put into the public domain, is to have a public contensious march through a city centre street!! Was this Spence chap going to be heading it? Were there going to be banners and placards with his name on it, considering that was the motive for the whole thing? I woundn't of even heard of the chap only for their protest, so in essence, they've done more damage to what they are meant to be protesting against than those they accuse! What idiots! and when you've got the BNP coming in for support, you know your dealing with a right bunch of 'intelligent individuals'! |
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Post by Wasp on Nov 23, 2007 22:22:20 GMT
THE BNP are not the band, nor do they represent loyalists. Is it anyones fault if undesireables show support for them? Did the thugs in Dublin represent all those who were opposed to the march for example? Of course not, IMO the bnp is only another chance to snipe at loyalists.
You also missed the other points of the amount of fund raising the band does for charity. I believe only the week before they raised alot of money for charity. But as usual it is the nick picking to demonize loyalism further.
Did the band know a funeral was on and what was the sectarian song that they played while passing the church?
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Post by Jim on Nov 24, 2007 1:03:52 GMT
Its a lot harder to move rioters than it is to move a "party" that tries to show itself as dignified. It would be a lot easier to move BNP activists at a loyalist march.
If I were a loyalist, I'd be more concerned with booting out the BNP from my politics than a march.
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Post by Wasp on Nov 24, 2007 20:52:06 GMT
So how many bnp candidates represent the loyalist community? The bnp are not part of my politics or most other loyalsits so how counld we kick them out. Can republicans kick out every other person who supports part of or all of republicanism if mainstream republicans do not want them??
BTW how would it be easier to move bnp activists ata loyalist march, how can you move anyone from following or supporting a march. That suggestion is completely daft and unworkable unless those that have to be removed break the law.
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Post by Jim on Nov 24, 2007 21:35:41 GMT
I didnt say the BNP represented loyalists. They represent loyalists as much as they represent any English-man. They'll claim they represent them but in reality they dont. But they are still there and they should be booted out by any self respecting loyalist. They dont need to be part of your politics, but they still exist. Its the same problems that face England at the minute. The BNP recognise loyalist politics as somewhere they can gain support and weither or not you support them is irrelevant in the bigger picture because they can still "stick up" for you lot and then use that later. They're already doing it mate!
Yes, we can. If the BNP for some odd reason started supporting Irish Republicanism I'd be at every corner, every demo, every counter-demo, against them.
It would be easier because the BNP has two faces, it has thugs in combats and it has thugs in suits. They only send thugs in suits to rallies, marches, demonstrations etc to save face against the media. You remove them by fucking them into the back of a landrover and driving off (the PSNI do that anyway with people they dont like). Very hard to remove 50 rioters compared to removing 3 or 4 BNP spokespeople.
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Post by Wasp on Nov 24, 2007 23:30:08 GMT
Jim did you go to any of corners at orange halls that were attacked by republicans, or goto Dublin to counter-demo republicans objecting to the love Ulster parade which ended up with many their being involved in riots etc etc???
I personnally know two people who are linked to the bnp, one BTW is a Catholic. I have said before that I have had heated discussions with them and to be fair to them they did raise some valid points. They feel it is other people who are classing the bnp as a whole and throwing the thugs that support them into the mix with everyone else within the bnp. If a thug who supports the bnp attacks a coloured man's home does that make the bnp as a whole responsible?
Doesn't most/every party have extremists or hardliners or those who use violence to attack another community because of religion or skin colour etc?
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