Poots wants Protestants to play Gaelic Games

[Wasp]

Well they could be encouraged when the sectarian gaa in N.Ireland stop allowing clubs to promote sectarian sports. Apart from that Poots is a real two faced hypocritical tosser.

[Jim]

You mean he doesnt tow the party line.

[Wasp]

He's a tosser, that is exactly what I mean.

[Wasp]

No I am not encouraged by that at all, it is absolutely meaningless. When they sput a stop to trophys and tournaments named after terrorists then this move would certainly be welcomed.

[Jim]

If trophys named after volunteers is your biggest worry then I worry for you, must be a simple life you lead mate.

I mean, I personally could care less about the GAA I dont even pay attention to it, but your even going against now a DUP minister encourging people to take part in it which will ultimately depoliticising it.

You seem to have this mindset that if you dont like how it is, you'll not have anything to do with it, then you wonder why its so politicised and one sided. You dont make changes by doing nowt.

[Wasp]

Setanta I do not label just anyone a terrorist because they defied an empire. I label murdering cowardly scumbags terrorists because of their deeds. You can rant on about the sectarian gaa not being sectarian and propmoting terrorism all you want. I know and think different. They have alot to do before they can be taken seriously.

Jim apply that logic of not liking something to yourself. You supported the ira because you didn't like the dcemocracy in N.Ireland etc for example.

It is politicised and one sided because of the gaa and some of the clubs not because of me or any Unionist. How many Catholics would want to take part in the shankhill butchers challenge cup?? Yeh real inclusive.

[Harry]

Half of what team are from Unionists families?? You saying that half a GAA team are made up of genuine Unionists?? How many time must we go over this about the GAA. The GAA doesn't welcome me or my beliefs?? It may not prevent me for being Protestant but it certainly wouldn't welcome someone who is Pro British, Pro Union.

[Harry]

I have to doubt anyone from within the Unionist community who would participate within the GAA. Now i'm not knocking the game itself but still feel the GAA doesn't welcome people like myself. Would i be welcome then being Pro British, Pro Union, Pro Orange Order??

[Wasp]

As things stand with the gaa any Unionist who would even consider taking part need their heads examined. Setanta these are kids you are talking about so maybe they haven't seen the otherside to the gaa or don't know about the trophies named after terrorists.

Now in all honesty IMO the gaa is about as welcoming for people like me as an ashtray on a motorbike. I am all on for cross community events as they can only do good. But until the gaa stops tournaments/trophies/grounds/fields etc being named after terrorsits then all the meaningless initiatives are exactly that, meaningless.

[Jim]

wasp said:

Setanta I do not label just anyone a terrorist because they defied an empire. I label murdering cowardly scumbags terrorists because of their deeds. You can rant on about the sectarian gaa not being sectarian and propmoting terrorism all you want. I know and think different. They have alot to do before they can be taken seriously.

Jim apply that logic of not liking something to yourself. You supported the ira because you didn't like the dcemocracy in N.Ireland etc for example.

It is politicised and one sided because of the gaa and some of the clubs not because of me or any Unionist. How many Catholics would want to take part in the shankhill butchers challenge cup?? Yeh real inclusive.

Than label your army the same thing. I supported the IRA over much more than just the "democracy" in NI. It doesnt even come close to that and it hasnt anything to do with this topic.

It is politicised and it will remain politicised as long as people like you are willing to dig their heads in the sand and think the problem will just go away on its own. The shankill butchers are very different to men like casement (who was a british diplomat anyway).

[Blue Angel]

oh god yes - there are unionists i can respect as individuals historically bu comparing lenny murphy and casement would be pretty stupid.

[Harry]

The problem is the GAA itself. It isn't simply a sporting body but has its roots steeped in Irish Nationalism. How can this ever be welcoming for me?? How could i ever want to get involved in something which stands for the opposite of everything i do??? Until the GAA becomes simply a sporting body and loses all the connections with Irish nationalism then i'd be opposed to any Unionist participating with the sport. Does this make me a bigot?? Does this mean i'm standing in the way of progress??? The problems lie at the door of the GAA. If they want to remain the same as they are now i'll have no problem with that. I respect their rights to support Irish Nationalism and understand how they have become the way they are. Just don't try telling me or any other Unionist that the GAA is a welcoming place open to anybody because it isn't. Full Stop.

[Jim]

Its going to have those roots in irish nationalism though the organisation was set up to promote irish sport. Any other country with its "own" sport is deeply rooted in their own countries nationalism. So why is the GAA going to be different?

It becomes welcoming for you when unionists take interest and the organisation starts to change. Who ever heard of things changing from the outside? Its always the inside.

[Wasp]

I didn't compare Casement with Murphy? So where did you get that one from. It was along the lines of Maraid Farrel, the Harte memorial under 11's tournament etc etc.

[Wasp]

And very few if any amongst the Unionist community will want to try and change something that doesn't welcome them anyway no matter how the gaa try to dress it up.