UDA Feud Spreads

[Jim]

'mon lads, knock it on the head for fuck sake.

[bearhunter]

Ten years time the last UDA feud will consist of two drug dealers throwing rocks at each other. Good riddance, I just wish their aim was better.

[Harry]

Its only a matter of time before someone is shot dead over the head of this. Does nothing but bring further misery on my community. The IRA could never have destroyed our community the way we have done ourselves. Criminals seeking refuge in a brigade of the UDA and blood will be spilt. Its a sad state to feel like this but if all the thugs interested in self importance and using Loyalism as a means to further their criminal empire were all shot dead then Loyalism would be better off for it. If they want a life of crime then thats their choice but stop calling themselves Loyalists cos they aren't.

[Jim]

I'd say the IPLO where a lot weaker than any part of the UDA are today, and I think these people might be a bit more bone headed as well. When the 'ra told the IPLO to knock it on the head, they listened. If the other parts of the UDA done the same to whatever part thats causing trouble, what do you think would happen?

[Jim]

The UDA have never been as organised as the IRA (not suppose to be offensive to our loyalists here ) militarily and the IPLO job was a lot of good luck as well. its a different era so it just wouldnt work. We'd have the bloody British army back and even the UDA wont be wanting that.

[Wasp]

I find it laughable that one set of criminals condemn the other. The iplo were criminals, the ira are criminals yet they put a stop to the iplo. The same goes for the different loyalist factions. The main reason is probably because one set of criminals is taking money off the other criminals.

So why does one set of criminals think they are above the rest in both republican and loyalist circles?

[Jim]

I thought something was missing from this thread all day ;D

The IRA where into different dealings than the IPLO for different reasons. But I suppose theres no chance of telling you otherwise

[Wasp]

Criminals are criminals and criminal actions are done by criminals and gangsters regardless of any excuses.

[bearhunter]

Oh God, where am I going with this...Never mind, I shall plough on: Wasp, depends on your definition of criminal. Technically that is someone who breaks the law. But what about those who claim that they broke the law because the law was oppressive or wrong? I'm not making any sort of case for either species of terrorist, just a bit of blue-skying.

[Wasp]

Well what do you call people who use extortion to raise money, run prostitutes, rob banks post offices, kidnap people and let's not forget even a horse (shergar) etc etc. The list of the criminal activity the paramilitaries in N.Ireland and the republic is endless. Bit like the mafia don't you think?

[Jim]

Who ran prostitutes?

[Wasp]

The ira did as did loyalists or is this another one they will deny.

[bearhunter]

WASP, what about a group of people who take up arms against what they consider to be an unjust law and threaten to use those guns unless they get their way? I'm not talking about the IRA here as I said.

[Jim]

First I've ever heard of the IRA running prostitutes.

I can see it now, P O'Neil pimping wee Charlene down Linen hall street.

[Wasp]

bearhunter said:

WASP, what about a group of people who take up arms against what they consider to be an unjust law and threaten to use those guns unless they get their way? I'm not talking about the IRA here as I said.

That's a very broad question which could depending on circumstances be answered yes and no. Like who are they using the arms against, is it a brutal regime, is there many other people happy with things and only these people are against it etc etc. People using arms to get there way and only there way I would be against as that is more like those people acting like dictators.