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Post by Jim on Jul 31, 2007 19:47:23 GMT
I think he's more embarrassed of his history, which makes it sound more like denial than anything else. What you think about my thoughts and what I think for myself are two different things. When it comes to being embarrased about history republicans should take a good look at their own doorstep before even thinking a Unionist is embarrased about theirs. Rpeublicans may think sands and co shaped the future for the likes of me, I am afraid for me that is not the case, he was a terrorist who killed himself, simple as that. The fact republicans supported him to kill himself along with the others who committed suicide again is meaningless to me. He like others were part of a sectarian hate filled organisation that butchered and maimed thousands. To me they are where they belong and that is six foot under. So trying to say that they mean anything to me concerning history, they don't, never have and never will. Well firstly you've taken my post the wrong way, as if you are arguing for the sake of argument. I'm quite ashamed of many things republicans have done and I'm not the only one that would admit it, and I'm not afraid to admit it. I do think you are embarrassed about what happened when the world saw the reality of stormont unionism, and when it sparked the troubles, I'd be embarrassed too. Its not something to tar you with. I dont think Sands shaped the future for people like you, I think they shaped the future for thousands of young republicans and how they should take a step back and look at republicanism. When Sands died it marked a turning point in how many republicans thought. Before his generation of volunteers most republicans would have been very conservative and it was only a few that stood out that wherent, from what I've read. Your opinion on the hunger strikers is your own, its not something we could ever hope to agree with so I see no point in arguing with you about it. Unionist fascination with the vatican (could care less myself about that, I'd agree with them), Ireland, and the Nazis arent scorned on because they are looked at, they are scorned on because they can rarely ever put out a good arguement. Willie Frazer cherry picks history, he takes what he likes and discards what he doesnt like then puts it up on his petty website because no one wants to hear what he says, no one has any interest in what he says, most of us know he talks out of his hole and can never back up what he says. If he was an academic he'd be laughed even more than he is. The man has a hatred for the Irish that goes beyond just being a unionist, the man is a racist with no credibility to his name! No one can take a man seriously when he whinges about republicans and then says that he has a lot of time for Billy wright and that loyalist paramilitaries shouldnt have been locked up. The man is a wanker, hes a joke.
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Post by bluedog on Jul 31, 2007 22:29:13 GMT
Since when do you leave rosary beads ,crucifixes,and candles in a museum?I've never seen any in the Ulster Museum.Will there be any room for exhibits after the build up of beads in the cross community shrine?Will there be beads for all ten or every republican prisoner.I think the health and safety people should limit the amount of candles if they dont a bucket of holy water at the door just in case. A nice big tin of fresh cream cookies with Sands face on the lid for the one million yanks who are coming to see the shrine,sorry museum.
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Post by Blue Angel on Jul 31, 2007 22:50:06 GMT
that's a great business idea - maybe we could have this product in the museum shop to :- www.cooleywhiskey.com/_news/16Jan2006.shtmler, maybe not, considering how many northern republicans feel about old mr. collins...
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Post by Jim on Jul 31, 2007 23:06:15 GMT
Since when do you leave rosary beads ,crucifixes,and candles in a museum?I've never seen any in the Ulster Museum.Will there be any room for exhibits after the build up of beads in the cross community shrine?Will there be beads for all ten or every republican prisoner.I think the health and safety people should limit the amount of candles if they dont a bucket of holy water at the door just in case. A nice big tin of fresh cream cookies with Sands face on the lid for the one million yanks who are coming to see the shrine,sorry museum. Wise up.
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Post by Blue Angel on Aug 1, 2007 17:39:45 GMT
what willie frazer potentially making things up perhaps Never, I mean that's like saying politicians lie or water is wet or other such ridiculous assertions.
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Post by bluedog on Aug 2, 2007 17:52:35 GMT
what willie frazer potentially making things up perhaps Never, I mean that's like saying politicians lie or water is wet or other such ridiculous assertions. Its like saying Gerry Adams was never in the Provos,the Columbia three were eco tourists,PIRA didnt rob the Northern Bank,and Marty's not a spy.
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Post by Blue Angel on Aug 2, 2007 21:11:12 GMT
you are predictable aren't you little lad of the tricks?
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Post by blueman on Aug 2, 2007 21:15:56 GMT
what willie frazer potentially making things up perhaps Never, I mean that's like saying politicians lie or water is wet or other such ridiculous assertions. Its like saying Gerry Adams was never in the Provos,the Columbia three were eco tourists,PIRA didnt rob the Northern Bank,and Marty's not a spy. Bluedog don't be so stupid, Republicans are blameless no matter how much murder and mayhem they cause. It's always somebody else's fault, the big bad Brits or them big bad Ulster Proddies. The Shrine will be built and the DUPERS with that clown Poots leading the way will help them achieve their goal. After all they walk hand in hand now. The bead counters will have their day at the Maze and the Shrine which should be a Shrine of Shame will be glorified and maybe even beautified by Ratz the Natz. They will probably turn it into a Hall of Fame which we will all have to walk through as we make our way to the match. The Police Service Nationalist Ideology will be there in their droves to make sure there are no wanton acts of vandalism as we pass through the Shrine and to ensure their friends are honoured in an appropriate manner. Somehow I don't think it will be so easily policed and the people who have watched these murderers in action will not be so easily deceived by the Media lies and spin as they try to turn them into some kind of Republican Martyrs.
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Post by Blue Angel on Aug 2, 2007 21:28:15 GMT
you seem to be unable to distingush between catholic and republican and this is why you have been told you engage in bigotry.
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