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Post by Jim on Oct 1, 2007 23:25:47 GMT
Thats how it is here.
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Post by Wasp on Oct 2, 2007 17:53:50 GMT
But there are also many English people who do have a clue. Jim my point was that you were saying most people in Lpool and Manchester are in favour of a UI, I beg to differ, well on Liverpool anyway because it is very much a case of depends who you are talking to. For the first time ever this year I said to an English gent I am from British Ulster and he replied oh you are from N.Ireland.
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Post by Jim on Oct 2, 2007 18:21:49 GMT
Naw I said most people I've met. If I said anything else then its been a mistak and I've just forgot to write it in.
Most are students and some are just from the area.
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Post by Wasp on Oct 2, 2007 19:34:55 GMT
No probs Jim but this is what you wrote.
"I've noticed most people up north around Liverpool and Manchester are more in favour of a united Ireland than people down south around the London area."
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Post by Jim on Oct 2, 2007 19:52:32 GMT
should have said "most people i know up north"
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Post by Wasp on Oct 2, 2007 20:13:32 GMT
As I said Jim no probs. Most people I know would say different apart from a few especially that woman from Middlesborough.
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Post by Jim on Oct 3, 2007 14:03:41 GMT
Dont forget the manchester irish festival and the london one too. I've no idea whats happening on it but am sure it'll be nice and nationalist.  |
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Post by Wasp on Oct 3, 2007 16:24:46 GMT
If you're going to Liverpool soon WASP, make sure you go to the Liverpool Irish Festival. The Dubliners are playing. I quite like the Dubliners. I know alotfrom Liverpool who take part in these kind of events like St Paddy's day and they have a ball. Doesn't mean that because they are there enjoying the crack that they want a UI or they all are Irish. Even many of those who call themselves Irish don't want a UI. But at the sametime many do. Now here is one for you, some of those whom I know there (both working and at uni) are Catholic and they very well might wwish for a UI, yet they were running around with England tops when the big matches/tournaments are on out in full swing cheering on England. In the sameway there are those who wish NI to remain British go out and enjoy various Irish events wearing the shamrocks and green hats etc. IMO it is the way it should be where people don't take offence because one culture is celebrating theres and the others don't like it. If you are ever in Coventry there is a great Irish bar there not to far from the rangers supporters club. I first stood for the soldier song in it, although TBH I didn't know it was the soldier song. ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Jim on Oct 3, 2007 16:50:31 GMT
Well yes mate they would be running around in England tops because they are born in England and in the end are English. I support NI as well even though I want a united Ireland where the team would cease to exist.
Standing for the soldiers song? oh my, we always said we'll turn you and Harry into shinners one day. ;D
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Post by Wasp on Oct 3, 2007 18:33:16 GMT
No that is not what I was saying or rather meant. The people I am talking about were born and bred here, and I was meaning those that are Catholics , not Protestants. They proudly wore and bought England tops and went into all the bars with the rest. Before you ask I slagged them bigtime especially the fella that said the greatest day of his life was his first Celtic match. ;D ;D ;D Tell the truth you really support N.Ireland. Ssssshhh don't tell anyone. |
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Post by Jim on Oct 3, 2007 19:01:49 GMT
Well yeah okay then. They live in England so why not I dont see the problem? I dont support England I support the Republic and Northern Ireland (moreso the republic if both played each other but its not much to do with politics) and wouldnt support England but it doesnt mean they wont support England especially if they've been there for a bit, I'm only a student here and dont plan on settling in England in the long term future Do you find it odd that there are protestants that support Celtic? I worked with an old fella from just outside Belfast (forget the name of the place.. its not far from the docks) who is protestant, loyalist, but has the celtic logo tattooed on his back. Support for football isnt always to do with who you are or where you are from, the Republic team is shite and the Northern team is shite compared to England so some people like to glory hunt. |
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Post by Jim on Oct 3, 2007 21:20:29 GMT
"Where were you when you where shite!?"
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Post by Wasp on Oct 3, 2007 21:42:03 GMT
Jim I know a few devout Celtic fans who are Protestant, one especially goes to most matches and I take it you know the priest who follows Rangers religiously (excuse the pun). If memory serves they had a documentary about him. I was to goto a Celtic match last season and I faithfully bought Celtic supporters tickets for draws every week fo a couple of years off a few mates of mine who are in there local clubs. They inturn have bought Rangers tickets of fans selling them as well.
But let's face it most and I am not saying all from here support one or the other depending on what religion they are. I like to see Rangers do well in Europe and I would like to see them win the Scottish prem but that is the height of it. I couldn't tell you who they are playing from one week to the next, nor could I name anymore than about 2 players. If they don't win the title it doesn't bother me in the slightest. I follow the premiership and that is about it in the UK.
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Post by Jim on Oct 4, 2007 19:47:12 GMT
Sounds fair I'm the same with Celtic although I probably support them a bit more than you support Rangers.
Cant say i'd go to a rangers match voluntairly, I'd be too paranoid. Just cant help that.
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Post by Wasp on Oct 4, 2007 21:32:10 GMT
The only concern I had was other supporters travelling from here, you know the usual arse holes looking for trouble. Most of those in the club are dead on but a few are bad news and hating Protestants is something they are good at. Bit like most celtic/rangers clubs here.
Years ago I went with a rangers club to a match, the guy who ran it was really strict. Because he usually had kids on board, if you were drunk or loud then you were off the bus, no drinking before the match or on the bus. After the match you had about an hour or so for a few pints. If he smelt drink off you in the morning before going then tough you wouldn't get on the bus.
IMO this is how most clubs should be run.
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