Murder in South Armagh

[bluedog]

The family of a south Armagh murder victim have accused the PIRA of their sons murder.

"They have'nt gone away you know",So Beardy was telling the truth after all.

[Wasp]

Wait to you hear the excuses for this one and wait to see the support the police get in trying to find the culprits. Obviously this family like many others are wrong but the word of murdering scumbags who tried and succeeded to kill and maim thousands will be believed.

[Harry]

Murdered man in IRA-linked fights

Gardai have been carrying out searches at the murder scene
A man savagely beaten to death had been involved in two fights with people linked to high-ranking republicans, a former Sinn Fein member has said.
Jim McAllister said the family of Paul Quinn, from Cullyhanna, believed the IRA had abducted and murdered him.

Mr Quinn, 21, was found at farm buildings at Tullycoora near Oram in County Monaghan on Saturday.

On Monday, Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams said republicans were not involved in the murder.

The DUP has said conclusive IRA involvement "could mean the collapse of the political institutions".

However, Mr Adams said: "Others may want to play politics with this dreadful murder. I don't and I won't."

"There is no republican involvement whatsoever in this man's murder and all of us should be careful that we don't end up playing politics with what is a dreadful, criminal action."


Mr Quinn was found at farm buildings near the village of Oram

He said whoever was responsible for the killing should be brought to justice.

Mr McAllister, a member of the 1982 NI Assembly, said the murdered man had received two threats from republicans.

Mr McAllister said the killing had been "a brutal slaughter" by a gang wielding iron bars.

He said two men who worked on the farm had been tied up and forced to phone Mr Quinn to lure him to the area.

'Serious implications'


"He went to the farm with a friend... they separated Paul Quinn from the other three," said Mr McAllister.

He said he did not want to speak on radio about the reports he had heard about the beating Mr Quinn had received in the barn.


The victim had been involved in fights with the son of a leading republican and an associate of high-ranking republicans, he said.


Mr Quinn was beaten by up to 15 men in a barn

DUP MP Jeffrey Donaldson said if it was found that the IRA were involved in the murder it would have serious implications.

"If the IRA were corporately involved in this murder, that may mean that the executive is finished in its current form.

"But we do not yet know and we have to wait until we get all of the facts - but it could mean the collapse of the political institutions.

"That has happened before - it may happen again."

[Wasp]

Well it is something that the ira have done for years, I hope it is not them but unfortunately paramilitaries here no matter how much they claim peace etc don't like it when someone treads on their toes or falls out with them.

What is still happening when someone falls ouit with members of the uda/ira etc? How many people could safely say that they were not frightened after having an arguement with uda/ira members? Very few if any which is further proof of whayt really goes on on the ground.

While we may not all know the facts yet, what has been said suggests the ira were involved.

[bluedog]

WASP you know the score the Shinners/DUP will require proof ,unless you can post a "link" the farce goes on.

[Blue Angel]

oh christ imagine the unfairness of actually requiring proof of something happening as oppossed to grape vine rumors and 'a mate of mine down the pub heard it from another mate' type rumors.

[Jim]

SF are dogs, you dont need proof against them theyre always guilty!

[Wasp]

Well support and take part in such things for years the mud alsways sticks. BTW why are you all very quick to believe this was not the work of an ira gang when the family has said it was???

[Wasp]

How do you really know that?

[ptarmigan]

Mr Quinn was beaten by up to 15 men in a barn

It sounds like Mr Quinn was no saint but hey, was he some kind of a Superman, or how come it took FIFTEEN of these cowards to beat him to death?

Can we take it that these were the fifteen men who lost money when that Fuel Lorry burned & they each insisted on their pound of flesh?

Does anyone here seriously expect us to believe that a gang exists in South Armagh which is actually making thousands & thousands, if not millions, of £s, which is not under the control of the IRA, one way or another?

Paisley warning over Quinn murder

Ian Paisley asks the prime minister for his full support if it turns out the IRA were involved in a man's murder.

Oh dear! Is the writing on the wall?

[Wasp]

Setanta the same volunteers who belong to an organisation that carried out similar attacks for years, the same organisation that denied and lied about alot of things. Take Marty did he not lie about his ira credentials for example? So isn't it possible that they are lying now? Isn't it possible that the gardai are correct when they said that members of the ira were behind it nevermind the British.

The way things are at the moment things are being said to try and keep Stormont going and the governments, security force etc are carefull with what they say because they know the damge that it could do. So bending the truth isn't an impossibility.

[Wasp]

From tonights Belfast telegraph.

'Gardai believe that members of the ira were behind the vicious murder of a 21 year Co Armagh man it em,erged today'

Senior gardai confirmed that the brutal attack on Mr Quinn was linked to two previous assaults. But they do not believe the ira gang tried to kill him. "Their aim was to beat him up in retaliation for the injuries they claimed he had inflicted on a republican and seperately on another republicans son in recent incidents.

[Wasp]

Setanta they lied about the weather ffs. What do you think?

[He_Who_Walks_in_The_Wilderness]

if as republicans are alleging this was a criminal gang that did this and it was over fuel smuggling does that mean republicans are alleging that Mr Quinn was a criminal himself?

[bluedog]

setanta said:

WASP, why don't you start a thrend on it and leave this one for the subject it's about.
I'm not sure what you think the IRA lied about though.

The IRA lied just about everything from bank robberies,Columbia eco tourists,Castlereagh.They are born in deceit, sure Gerry was'nt even in the Ra. ::)For people who claim to be proud of their fascist Republican murderous activities in the past you would think they would be proud to admit what these hero's accomplished,but no,just a trail of denial's and lies.At least loyalists were up front about their envolvement but not this scum.

You are well linked with the other experts in deceit ,Paisley and Co,it really is a carve up between thieves.The only government you both are fit for is the current corrupt one on the hill.