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Post by leeside on Aug 2, 2010 11:48:34 GMT
17 July 2010 Last updated at 10:40 ET 100 people stage protest at Asda store in north Belfast Billy Hutchinson Billy Hutchinson said the dismissed employee should get his job back
About 100 people have held a protest outside a supermarket in north Belfast over the dismissal of an employee.
A group gathered outside Asda on the Shore Road for the second time in two days.
Protesters claimed that the man was dismissed for a "throwaway remark" involving the loyalist song, The Sash.
A spokesperson for Asda said it did not comment on individual cases. She said the supermarket operated a formal process including a right of appeal.
One of those protesting said that the man had been dismissed after telling some people playing music in the store's car park that they should play The Sash instead.
The Sash commemorates King William's victory at Battle of the Boyne in 1690 and is played at loyalist parades.
It has caused controversy in the past, with critics claiming that it contains sectarian sentiment.
Billy Hutchinson, a former Progressive Unionist party member and MLA in north Belfast, said the man was sacked "unfairly".
"He is a well-liked person, he is a bit of a character. People going to Asda love going to his till," he said.
"They (the protestors) are trying to make a point. You can't sack people for this sort of behaviour. We want the person's job to be reinstated."
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Post by leeside on Aug 2, 2010 11:49:16 GMT
"well-liked person, he is a bit of a character"?
McErlaine, John 23 May 1975, (29) Catholic Status: Civilian (Civ), Killed by: Protestant Action Force (PAF) Shot while visiting friend's home, Mount Vernon Green, Mount Vernon, Belfast. McErlaine, Thomas 23 May 1975, (19) Catholic Status: Civilian (Civ), Killed by: Protestant Action Force (PAF) Shot while visiting friend's home, Mount Vernon Green, Mount Vernon, Belfast.
William Hunter was a workmate of the McErlain brothers. He spent months persuading them to come to Mt Vermin for a game of cards.
When they got there he shot them.
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Post by Wasp on Aug 2, 2010 22:32:21 GMT
Its no big deal really, telling people to play the sash especially in banter is hardly crime of the century.
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Post by leeside on Aug 3, 2010 12:30:14 GMT
When the guy saying it is a psychopathic killer who has killed 2 catholics then its a little more than just simply a bit of banter.
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Post by leeside on Aug 3, 2010 14:51:51 GMT
Wonder how loyalists would feel if the shankill bomber was working in a similar food chain covered in similarly scummy sectarian tattoos and making similar remarks to protestant customers/staff. Wonder would you dismiss is as simply....'a bit of banter'.
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Post by Wasp on Aug 3, 2010 17:28:25 GMT
Leeside your points are at best laughable, unfortunately we have a government up here that is terrorist inclusive, the same terrorists who killed, planned to kill and ordered the killing of alot more than 2 people. He said to play the sash which I am sure you are aware was ruled as NOT a sectarian song by a European court if memory serves me correctly, we even debated that here.
Therefore it is no different to anyone asking to play a traditional irish song which is sung by republicans, lets say fields of athenry.
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Post by leeside on Aug 3, 2010 23:23:54 GMT
Nonsense. Its your comparison thats laughable. There is a big difference wasp. That cunt lured two innocent men to their deaths. 'Salt of the earth' is that another way of saying scum bag retard?
Kind of puts this story in perspective......
Tesco bans sports tops after GAA bag packers row
Tesco has announced that it will no longer permit charity bag packers to wear sporting tops in its stores following the furore over GAA shirts being worn by kids at its Antrim outlet.
The store was forced to ask members of a local GAA club to remove their club strip and continue their bag packing in plain T-shirts after “vociferous” complaints from customers.
The store’s policy had been to ask that groups wear their uniforms and clearly display the name of their organisation on their collection tins “so that customers will know the organisation for which they are collecting”.
But the supermarket giant has performed a U-turn on its policy, saying that anyone from a local sports organisation taking part in bag packing in future will no longer be allowed to wear their club colours.
Local SDLP Assembly member Thomas Burns described Tesco’s decision as “regrettable”, adding: “Tesco should have stuck by their guns and not wobbled because of a handful of complaints.”
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Post by Wasp on Aug 4, 2010 22:02:56 GMT
There is no difference in comparing these songs, stop sidestepping
What he did was terrible and no right thinking person can say different. But what on earth has those ghastly crimes years ago got to do with him asking someone to play the sash now?
Fuck me now your throing tescos into the arguement, I know every little helps but now you are being ridiculous.
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Post by leeside on Aug 5, 2010 13:19:57 GMT
What are you on about?! 'Sidestepping'?? Me asking you to put on a republican song is not the same as a double murdering loyalist scum bag coward telling a catholic at their workplace to 'play the fucking sash'!! Although, in fairness, you're always quick to make excuses for loyalist terrorists, wasp. Calton has trained you well. Again, refer above.... Are you purposely being an idiot here or will i explain why i included the tesco incident.... ?....might as well.... Double murdering loyalist scum bag makes intimidating comment to catholic employee. He is fired. Hundreds of supporters gather, led by another double murdering loyalist scumbag demanding his reinstatement. Loyalists outraged at the 'injustice' to the gentlemen who is clearly 'a bit of a character' which usually is a pleasant way of saying hes 'a bit thick' get their way. Meanwhile at tesco's, loyalists are livid that charity bag packers were wearing their GAA club colours and decided with complaints that were described as 'vociferous' to demand their removal. They also get their way. What are you're views on the tesco incident, Wasp?
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Post by Wasp on Aug 5, 2010 15:00:11 GMT
Was it a catholic he told to play the sash?
Ah PULSE agin, obviously you missed the many posts that I had in the past few years which were rather heated, but anyway have you tried a shrink to talk about your obsession with PULSE, oh and whats your username again or are you still wanting to hide
You forgot the loaylsit bigoted idiot who hates all things irish etc etc.
Was it a catholic employee and what was intimidating about asking to play a song that was ruled NOT sectarian by European courts?
And meanwhile we have terrorist scumbags and terrorist leaders in governemnt helping run hospitals and schools, the same places where they left many injured and dead, and the same places where they left children without there fathers or parents etc etc. At least he only worked in Asda.
Oh I already made my views quite clear on the tesco incident and I stand by them. Going by many republicans I debate with they paint a completely different picture of the gaa in the south than the terrorist love fest which many clubs and supporters have here in Northern Ireland.
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Post by leeside on Aug 5, 2010 15:28:03 GMT
Yes. findarticles.com/p/news-articles/daily-mirror-the-london-uk/mi_8006/is_20100723/asda-sash-sacked/ai_n54544276/?tag=rel.res1Why would i want to give my name away and get banned for the 11th time. You are aware that 'taigs' are strictly prohibited, dont you? Pulse is a hatefest that should not allow under 18 year old impressionable kids on its forums. Eh, what?? Clearly you don't do circumstance and context... Indeed, and isnt it great to see that they have turned their backs on violence. Whats your problem with that anyway? You support terrorists! Is it like the same 'hatefest' that is the terrorist loving OO and the hate your taig neighbour 'orangeweek' up there?
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Post by Wasp on Aug 5, 2010 21:22:03 GMT
That was the first I knew he was a catholic not that it makes any difference. The fact he went to a solicitor concerning it shows how easily offended he was at the mere suggestion of the sash, he should catch him,self on. If people here were to go to solicitors everytime someone joked about playing a song or used slang concerning one side or the other at work then every solicitor in the world wouldnt be enough to deal with the cases.
The 11th time??? Fuck me you are obsessed with PULSE, why pretend to be something you are not?
There are a few catholics on PULSE, it is republicans that are prohibited because all they do is come on to stir up shite and cause trouble, so blame them not PULSE. I even invited one to come on here, perhaps that was you that I sent the pm to.
No it is not, it covers people from wide ranging views and has also banned loyalists from it.
So it would be ok then for the uvf/uda who killed and maimed many in your opinion to run governemnt here? since they are not admitting to their crimes, since adams hasnt admitted to being in the ira dont you think it borders on the extreme when they demand enquiry after enquiry against any alledged British wrongdoing?
Havent a clue what you are on about.
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Post by Jim on Aug 7, 2010 13:27:58 GMT
Leeside your points are at best laughable, unfortunately we have a government up here that is terrorist inclusive, the same terrorists who killed, planned to kill and ordered the killing of alot more than 2 people. He said to play the sash which I am sure you are aware was ruled as NOT a sectarian song by a European court if memory serves me correctly, we even debated that here. Therefore it is no different to anyone asking to play a traditional irish song which is sung by republicans, lets say fields of athenry. Have you ever actually listened to the lyrics of fields of athenry? Its a folk ballad, not a rebel song or a Republican song. The Sash is a ultimately a song glorifying war. Its not a song that annoys me in anyway, its a very traditional Irish ballad in itself, but I doubt very heavily this buck eejet was referring to its pleasent tune and real meaning.
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Post by Wasp on Aug 9, 2010 19:55:14 GMT
Leeside your points are at best laughable, unfortunately we have a government up here that is terrorist inclusive, the same terrorists who killed, planned to kill and ordered the killing of alot more than 2 people. He said to play the sash which I am sure you are aware was ruled as NOT a sectarian song by a European court if memory serves me correctly, we even debated that here. Therefore it is no different to anyone asking to play a traditional irish song which is sung by republicans, lets say fields of athenry. Have you ever actually listened to the lyrics of fields of athenry? Its a folk ballad, not a rebel song or a Republican song. The Sash is a ultimately a song glorifying war. Its not a song that annoys me in anyway, its a very traditional Irish ballad in itself, but I doubt very heavily this buck eejet was referring to its pleasent tune and real meaning. Jim why is this song a favourite among republicans/nationalists as well as celtic supporters? The song does not annoy me either, infact I play it from time to time along myself. At the end of the day no-one who supports the present Stormont set up has any right to moan about a man asking a driver to play the sash. It was highly likely it was in jest and Jim you know as well as I do that this type of banter is something that goes on in the workplace, infact many many times it is usually someone slagging off their ownside.
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Post by Jim on Aug 9, 2010 21:27:21 GMT
What do Celtic have to do with it? Its a very famous Irish song and part of our heritage. Celtic sing lots of songs, they're the only club I can think of whos chants and songs are actually songs and not adopted nursary rhymes anyway.
Doesnt sound like banter from what I've heard tbh. Neither you or I will know if it was.
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