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Post by Wasp on Feb 22, 2010 18:30:11 GMT
You constantly claim with thread after thread that the GAA is a sectarian terrorist supporting organization. That criteria could also be used to tarnish the OO with the same claims. First of all one is an alledged sporting organisation and the other is a religious organisation so there is a big difference. One has trophies/tournaments/fileds/clubs etc named after terrorists and dont forget some of these tournaments are for young children and these torunaments happen every year without change. |
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Post by Wasp on Feb 22, 2010 18:33:51 GMT
So you havent chatted with members of the OO and let them talk to you about what it really is about, nor have you been to any parade as an outsider yet you have such a strong opinion against them based on very very little. How many GAA games have u been to, WASP? Absolutely none due to the gaa allowing grounds and trophies to be named after cowardly terrorists, although I have been stuck in ques beside gaa pitches while games were being played and I had full view of the pitch and supporters. I know quite a few players/supporters and isnt it funny that the violent Protestant hating republicans like to show off their gaa tops as a symbol of hatred in the sameway celtic/rangers tops are worn. I have no problem with the game, the sport or the true supporters and many of the players, I do have problems with the gaa ruling bodies which allow certain clubs to glorify terrorists who terrorized my community for decades while at the sametime claim to be non sectarian. |
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Post by Wasp on Feb 22, 2010 18:36:09 GMT
BTW, my sources for what read about the north are not some sectarian, racist hate sites like Calton or UpThe Ra for that matter. Could you post your sources if you dont mind. |
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Post by leeside on Feb 22, 2010 23:23:32 GMT
How many GAA games have u been to, WASP? Absolutely none due to the gaa allowing grounds and trophies to be named after cowardly terrorists, although I have been stuck in ques beside gaa pitches while games were being played and I had full view of the pitch and supporters. I know quite a few players/supporters and isnt it funny that the violent Protestant hating republicans like to show off their gaa tops as a symbol of hatred in the sameway celtic/rangers tops are worn. I have no problem with the game, the sport or the true supporters and many of the players, I do have problems with the gaa ruling bodies which allow certain clubs to glorify terrorists who terrorized my community for decades while at the sametime claim to be non sectarian. Thankfully we dont have that celtic/rangers bullshit mentality as regards GAA tops down here. That kind of shit disgusts me personally. I can see how its personal for you if they allow their grounds to be used in that way, ie glorifying IRA members and the like but I guess we're not accustomed to that kind of carry on down here as it simply wouldn't happen. I would fully back that sort of thing to be prohibited not only as gesture to unionists but also as a sign of the GAA's true purpose, that being to promote Gaelic games non-politically. |
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Post by leeside on Feb 22, 2010 23:24:55 GMT
BTW, my sources for what read about the north are not some sectarian, racist hate sites like Calton or UpThe Ra for that matter. Could you post your sources if you dont mind. My sources generally consist of history books, biographies, Cain... not objective and utterly partial forums. |
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Post by leeside on Feb 22, 2010 23:30:05 GMT
You constantly claim with thread after thread that the GAA is a sectarian terrorist supporting organization. That criteria could also be used to tarnish the OO with the same claims. First of all one is an alledged sporting organisation and the other is a religious organisation so there is a big difference. One has trophies/tournaments/fileds/clubs etc named after terrorists and dont forget some of these tournaments are for young children and these torunaments happen every year without change. Yeah like the OO is simply a religious organization  You must also accept that quite a number of loyalist paramilitaries have been members of the OO, have had loyalist paramilitary banners in parades and use violence if they dont get their way as well as stand toe to toe with terrorist groups at various rallies and violent flashpoints when it suits. |
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Post by collina on Feb 23, 2010 9:26:59 GMT
I 've been attending GAA matches for thirty years and never seen a single sectarian incindent. I'd imagine the vast majority of OO members are decent law-abiding people.
What makes me angry is that despicable cowards like Jackie Mcdonald and Gerry Adams try to tell everyone else their business. The notion of our president's husband playing golf with
a monster like Mcdonald is revolting. Can you imagine Prince Phillip playing polo with Martin Mcguinness?
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Post by leeside on Feb 23, 2010 12:41:51 GMT
;D
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Post by Wasp on Feb 23, 2010 22:23:01 GMT
Your lucky and it disgusts me as well, its like a marking of territory showing peoples identity.
Again your'e lucky but what makes it harder to stomach is the fact that GAA President Nickey Brennan officially opened the new GAA pitch in honour of the dead INLA terrorist and suicide hunger striker Kevin Lynch.
I couldnt agree more, well said.
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Post by Wasp on Feb 23, 2010 22:34:23 GMT
It is and a very charitble organisation.
I am quite sure there would have been those who got involved with paramilitaries who were also members of the OO, but they are in a tiny minority.
I know for a fact that lodges have had to walk with other lodges because they refused to allow their normal band to carry any type of paramilitary banner. I also know for a fact that if someone has any kind of criminal record and they apply for to join a lodge that they may be refused altogether or be asked to wait 2 or 3 years before reapplying.
Problem with that statement is that you are putting the OO as a whole into that. I have been at a number of protests, I never got involved in any type of violence and if anyone stepped out of line and got involved in violence etc I totally condemned it. The same logic applies to the Orange Order. I have also stood in places where paramilitary members arrived on the scene and that certainly didnt make me stand toe to toe with them, again same rule apllies to the OO.
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Post by Wasp on Feb 23, 2010 22:37:41 GMT
I dont doubt any of what you have said here.
You have my sympathy here, if anyone from the British establishment played polo etc with the likes of McGuinness I would be deeply offended and troubled.
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You must also accept that quite a number of loyalist paramilitaries have been members of the OO, have had loyalist paramilitary banners in parades and use violence if they dont get their way as well as stand toe to toe with terrorist groups at various rallies and violent flashpoints when it suits.