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Post by Wasp on Oct 29, 2009 10:12:12 GMT
BA you said infant baptism is biblical, I would really like to see proof of this because nowhere in the bible does it command for babies to be baptized.
In the Bible, only believers who had placed their faith in Christ were baptized, infants cannot do this, nor is there anywhere in the bible that infants were baptized.
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Post by Wasp on Oct 29, 2009 10:52:50 GMT
The practice of what is called baptismal regeneration is totally without foundation in Holy Scripture. There is not so much as one word in the Bible that teaches, or even implies it. And there is not a single example of it in the entire Bible.
It is a complete contradiction of the gospel of God’s Free and Sovereign grace in Christ. Salvation does not come by water, be it much or little, but by grace. It is not the result of some man’s priestly pretense, but of God’s sovereign operation. The doctrine of baptismal regeneration is also totally contrary to the teaching of Holy Scripture about baptism. Baptism pictures the death, burial and resurrection of Christ and our death, burial, and resurrection with Him (Rom. 6:3-6). It is called “believer’s baptism” because only believers are to be baptized. Baptism is the believer’s symbolic and public confession of faith in Christ.
So BA could you please show me in your bible the claim that you made concerning infant baptism being biblical??
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Post by Blue Angel on Oct 29, 2009 11:35:19 GMT
Acts 10:24,47-48; 16:14-15; 16:30-33; 1 Co. 1:16 - look at these excerpts for examples of whole households been baptised.
An argument could also be made around the terms of the great commision - in which we are instructed to baptise everyone - no exceptions for particular conditions such as age,rage etc are made.
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Post by Wasp on Oct 29, 2009 14:42:18 GMT
BA that does not represent a command to baptize infants or anything like it. BA if you read Acts Acts 10:34, it says that Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: So there are not 2 sets of rules for people therefore whatever the Bible requires of some people to be baptized, it requires the same of all people.
Here is what the bible says on baptism and it is very precise.
Mark 16:15,16 - All who are baptized, must first have the gospel preached to them. So what good would be done by preaching to a baby?
Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
Mark 15:15,16 He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation. 16Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip as he preached the good news of the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
Infant baptism is not biblical nor is it commanded by the Lord. Saying that there is no commandemnt not to baptise infants either but it is quite clear one must know the gospel etc before being baptized and infants could not know this.
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