Man cleared of McCartney murder

[trueblue]

Shocking.

SF intimidation scores another success. At least is proves they still have the old skills of clearing a murder scene. In 10 years I wouldn't be surprised to see copy of the CCTV tapes going up on eBay.

[bearhunter]

Ah come on Setanta. They said that after SF had interviewed everyone there and made sure they all had their stories straight.

[bearhunter]

Are you telling me that the IRA didn't interview people who were in the bar? Or are you using the "SF aren't anything to do with the IRA" argument here?

[Republic]

Why did the IRA interview anybody? Isn't that the PSNI's job?

I use the term ''interview'' lightly- I'd say it was more of a one-way chat consisting of threats.

[Republic]

So the people who murdered McCartney and who forensically cleaned the bar just left it at that? They didnt say anything to all to the witnesses?
Why would they have bothered cleaning the bar of all evidence if they knew witnesses would put them away anyway?
If they went to the trouble of removing evidence, its a logical step that they would ''ask'' witnesses not to give evidence either.

I'm not saying the murder was an official IRA action. But it is clear that republicans were involved in the murder, clean-up and intimidation process.
If it makes you feel better to say that it wasn't the IRA, thats fine. And technically you are right. It wasn't officially sanctioned.
But it was carried out by former IRA men who used their experience and connections to avoid conviction.

So cool it on the SF propaganda, most people don't believe it

Can you admit that it was most likely republicans/former IRA men who carried out the murder?
If no, please say why.

[Republic]

Jul 2, 2008 13:47:57 GMT @setanta said:

See now you're lumping everyone in as Republicans. Is Republican a group or organisation? Are all republicans likely to do somehting like this and are all republicans responsible for the actions of some?

-No, they are not likely to do it.
-I have never said they were likely to do something similar either.
-No, all republicans are not responsible.
-I never said they were.

But by denying that the men were republicans or former IRA men, it looks as if you (you plural) had your heads in the sand.

Are you including yourself in that catagory seeing as your handle is Republic? You're writing like Jim Cusack. Put down the tar brush/scatter gun.

Haven't a clue who that fella is.

Yes it was likely that the men who killed Robert McCartney were ex-IRA members.

Cheers, thats what I needed to hear.

The IRA didn't help them in any way.

How do ya know, have you contacts with the IRA through SF?

There was so suggestion that the IRA or Sinn Féin helped them in any way or tried to intimidate witnesses.
The witnesses in this case even said as much.

Of course the witnesses would say that they weren't intimidated.
What about the campaign of intimidation against his sisters and fiance? Are they lying?

Sinn Féin have asked many times for people with information to come forward. The IRA have let it be known that witnesses should come forward and tell the truth about what happened.
What more would you like Sinn Féin to do?
Be realistic and give a viable course of action if you think one exists.

I didnt ask SF to do any more. The problem is SF have lost control of some of their supporters/colleagues.
If SF had control of them, we wouldnt see things like the bank raid, the murder of McCartney, or the murder in armagh.
I have no doubt that SF do not support these activites, they are a PR nightmare for them.

The problem is when you deny that senior republicans are perverting justice.

I dont know why you get so defensive about it, you could just condemn what happened and say that you dont associate with those kinds of republicans and they are not SF members. No need to stick up for criminals. Problem solved.

By your reaction though, anyone would think that SF has ties to those criminals!!

None of what I've said is propaganda but the facts of this case.

This is propaganda-

Yes the IRA interviewed people. There was no question of them stopping people coming forward though

If you really believe that, could I please have whatever you are smoking.