Are Britains enemy your friends??

[earl]

harry said:

Islamic terrorists, insurgents in Iraq, the Taliban, Iran etc etc. Do republicans have sympathy for these groups and how do they feel about the London bombings by al qaeda?? Can Britains enemies also be your enemies???

Islamic terrorists = Not a chance.
insurgents in Iraq= Not clear cut. Many different groups are fighting for many different reasons. This is not a yes or no question.
Taliban= Not a hope!
Iran= How can any Irish man warm to a country that doesn't allow drink!

The London bombings were completely condemned in this country.

The relationship between Ireland and Britain is completly different now. We work side by side in the EU, in watching each others backs at home, and in making sure NI has the best chance possible of becoming a success.

[Bilk]

jim said:

So why where you just pointing out the racism from the big bad arabs? No I wouldnt agree, Israelis are just as nationalist, just as racist, and just as aggressive. We just dont hear of it.

So did your army, so whats your point?

We "hear of it" everyday jim, whether it is true or not I don't know. Because if it is true, they (they being israeli jews) keep it to the people who are attacking them, hamass and so forth. They do not go into countries in the Arab world and kill people indiscriminately. Israel Jews may, for all I know, be as racist/sectarian as Arabs, but the evidence does not point towards that. The only people the Israelis attack are the palestinians, (or those who threaten their borders) because the palistinians are attacking them. Despite strong provicaation from both Iran and Iraq in the past, they have never attacked those countries. They do not go out into the Arab/muslim world and bomb and kill arabs/muslims because they are arabs/muslims. As has been proved (in the seven day war etc) The Israelies can take on the whole arab world and defeat them easily. But they don't pick fights with these other Arab countries as long as these other Arab countries leave them alone. Unlike Muslim Arabs who don't confine their attacks to the people who are their real enemies (the Israelies) They attack everyone who is not a Muslim with suicide bombs. Including everyone in the western world.

[Jim]

bilk said:

jim said:

So why where you just pointing out the racism from the big bad arabs? No I wouldnt agree, Israelis are just as nationalist, just as racist, and just as aggressive. We just dont hear of it.

So did your army, so whats your point?

We "hear of it" everyday jim, whether it is true or not I don't know. Because if it is true, they (they being israeli jews) keep it to the people who are attacking them, hamass and so forth. They do not go into countries in the Arab world and kill people indiscriminately. Israel Jews may, for all I know, be as racist/sectarian as Arabs, but the evidence does not point towards that. The only people the Israelis attack are the palestinians, (or those who threaten their borders) because the palistinians are attacking them. Despite strong provicaation from both Iran and Iraq in the past, they have never attacked those countries. They do not go out into the Arab/muslim world and bomb and kill arabs/muslims because they are arabs/muslims. As has been proved (in the seven day war etc) The Israelies can take on the whole arab world and defeat them easily. But they don't pick fights with these other Arab countries as long as these other Arab countries leave them alone. Unlike Muslim Arabs who don't confine their attacks to the people who are their real enemies (the Israelies) They attack everyone who is not a Muslim with suicide bombs. Including everyone in the western world.

The evidence clearly does show that israeli jews are very racist and hostile to israeli arabs.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Arabism#Israel
All of the information on that particular article is referenced and sourced.

Your generalisation of arabs and muslims, is as unfair as me generalising that all protestants in the north will shoot anyone who is not protestant. Hardly bloody fair is it?

[earl]

bilk said:

They do not go into countries in the Arab world and kill people indiscriminately.

Tell that to the innocent women and children of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip killed by Israeli missiles and tanks.

Despite strong provicaation from both Iran and Iraq in the past, they have never attacked those countries.

That's because the Americans won't let them.

The Israelies can take on the whole arab world and defeat them easily. But they don't pick fights with these other Arab countries as long as these other Arab countries leave them alone.

As above.

Unlike Muslim Arabs who don't confine their attacks to the people who are their real enemies (the Israelies) They attack everyone who is not a Muslim with suicide bombs. Including everyone in the western world.

Correction, not 'muslim arabs', muslim terrorists do that. Muslim arabs are a distinct group of civillisation on this planet. Muslim terrorists are a small percentage amoung the millions of muslim arabs. And as the attacks on London show, these terrorists do not exclusivly come from the muslim-arab world. Those guy's were British, with Pakistani origin.

[Wasp]

Earl I think you are taking some of Bilk's post out of context.

Bilk wrote 'Because if it is true, they (they being israeli jews) keep it to the people who are attacking them, hamass and so forth. They do not go into countries in the Arab world and kill people indiscriminately.'

By that Bilk is saying they go in fter those who are attacking them, they don't just go in for the sake of it as your wording suggests and as your wording of what Bilk said would suggest that he was denying your implication.

Anyway just thought I would point that out.

BTW Israel did attack Iraq in 1981/1982 I think. But that was against a nuclear power plant if memory serves me correctly.

While there is no doubt Israel has made big mistakes I am with them 110% as they like the people of N.I suffered and still do suffer indiscriminate sectarian attacks.

[earl]

No WASP, I didn't take it out of context. The Israeli's usually fire back into the area they were fired from with missiles, artilliary or move in with armored support. These areas are usually populated areas. If you use these weapons in built-up areas, then you are being indiscriminate. How many times on the news do you hear about women and children being killed in Israeli retaliatory attacks?
How about that story in the news a while back where the Israelis were illegally using cluster bombs in urban areas in the Lebannon? There was even an instant where the Israeli's wanted to get rid of the Irish UN observers in a region of the Lebennon, so they started firing on that position, despite several calls being made for them to stop. One call for support to the French UN navy ships just off the coast and the Israelis got the message when the skies fell on them.

You are correct on the Israeli attack on the Iraqi nuclear facility near Baghdad. It was a risky mission. They had to camouflage the refuel plane as an Aer Lingus plane, as many Arab countries hire out their planes. The fighter stayed close to it to avoid being picked up by radar. I read about that in a very interesting book on the Mossad.