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Post by Wasp on May 14, 2008 17:48:54 GMT
I listened to a sinn fein councillor on the radio about this. She said these people have no place in our society, no republican involvement (even though it is a nationalist area), the attack was brutal and savage, and all the stuff about the frightened youngster along with her mother.
What a fucking joke, this same idiot was part of sinn fein/ira when they dished out hundreds of such attacks. And maybe she should be reminded that the ira are also responsible for the most child abuse cases in N.Ireland. Double standards of unimaginable porportions.
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Post by Jim on May 14, 2008 22:37:22 GMT
so either way she cant win, can she?
if she condoned it, you would be up in arms, and then she condemns it and your still up in arms.
what are you at mate?
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Post by Wasp on May 14, 2008 22:43:05 GMT
Setanta you don't understand. She was asked about what the ira done as in doing the samething and she went off in some waffle and totally avoided answering it. The interviewer didn't even repeat the question he just went onto something else.
How on earth can any sinn fein member condemn any paramilitary style attack on a member of their community when they supported hundreds of such attacks against there own community including children??
When sf can show that they admit such actions in the past were equally wrong then I will accept them condemning these actions now. They can't even condemn the abduction of a 4ft 10 woman in front of her kids and then executing her AND then giving the family no body to bury. The same big brave soldiers that done that are worse than the brave men who carried out this attack.
This is exactly what I am at.
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Post by Jim on May 14, 2008 23:00:17 GMT
Why can't they? They arent involved in violence, the vast majority of Sinn Fein members wherent in the IRA. I think you are afraid of SF starting to condemn violence because you are gonna lose a bogey man to burn at the stake everytime something goes wrong.
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Post by Wasp on May 14, 2008 23:03:03 GMT
Sorry Jim you are completely wrong, I am simply pointing out the blatant hypocricy of sf and there ilk. All I have said is true or are you saying it isn't?
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Post by Jim on May 15, 2008 0:04:12 GMT
How am I wrong?
If SF condemn it, you condemn them. If SF condone it, you condemn them.
Hardly fair. What do you want them to do, pull a rabbit out of their arse and kiss your feet?
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Post by Wasp on May 15, 2008 22:27:23 GMT
How am I wrong? If SF condemn it, you condemn them. If SF condone it, you condemn them. Hardly fair. What do you want them to do, pull a rabbit out of their arse and kiss your feet? Jim don't blame me for that blame sinn fein/ira. They are the hypocrites here, not me. When those within that party condemn the ira for similar attacks on youngsters for doing less than this man then I would accept there condemnation. A party of hypocrites with a brand of political thinking that goes beyond imagination when it comes to doubles standards, lies and hypocricy.
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Post by Jim on May 15, 2008 23:19:24 GMT
No, you're hypocritical in your approach. How can you not be? They're condemned whatever way you look at it.
Yeah, sure, the IRA went out and bombed and killed, we've heard the story before. Yet the "party" (or lack of) you support is completely against peace because it must involve SF since we voted for them, so how does that one work out?
I think you'll find every party in bleedin' Europe is involved in double standards, lies and hypocricy.
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Post by Wasp on May 16, 2008 20:45:19 GMT
None more tham sinn fein.
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Post by Wasp on May 16, 2008 21:39:17 GMT
Of course I would say the same about the dup but on a different subject. Sinn fein top the lot when it comes to this type of thing. You must be proud of a party that supported wife/girlfriend beating, abduction of mothers, supporting and being members/leaders of a group known from factual evidence as the biggest abusers of children during the troubles etc etc.
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Post by Jim on May 17, 2008 2:14:32 GMT
None more tham sinn fein. Well mate, thats politics. Every party in government is hypocritical, they promise things they cant achieve, and when parties involved in violence (99.9% of NI parties) comes into the equasion there will always be people, like you, that wont like them no matter what. Grow up man, I accept the PUP even though theyre the voice of the UVF, the same UVF that forced my family out of their home with a gun, the same UVF that killed relatives of mine and had the goal to kill as many catholics as possible, IRA or not. I accept them, I'd even vote for them because they are working class and have ideas I agree with. You don't have to like SF, but you can at least see things without the blinkers, surely.
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