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Post by Wasp on Oct 15, 2007 13:03:40 GMT
Have done so many times, many times.
Exactly Setanta, that is what all police officers should be like.
Now I am not trying to be smart but because of the circles you are in then suspician could be placed on your brother etc incase of collusion or passing on info on members of the security forces. The same suspician would be on security force members here the other way around. Like if your brother heard something about a volunteer that you knew would he pass it on or leave it because of you or even his own personal views?
This is common up here as well although security force members had to be extra careful who they had at their house to do work incase that person passed on intelligence to say the ira which would put not only himself at risk but he would also be exposing his family to any added risk above what they already faced and were challenged by.
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Post by Wasp on Oct 15, 2007 13:32:59 GMT
WASP, we never ever discussed it. It wasn't an issue. He was an NCO not a Captain. Fair enough Setanta I was genuinely asking. As you know sometimes in conversation a name is mentioned even in passing. IMO any security force member should pass on anything that is overheard but this also creates problems especially within the family. So is choosing to keep your mouth shut the right thing to do when you know something that would help capture someone, or info that would be helpful in bringing about an arrest and conviction???
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Post by Wasp on Oct 15, 2007 19:16:57 GMT
No I wasn't meaning a family member, I was meaning say a friend of a family member and they had done something and you heard about it through your family. The reason I gave both sides of the border here as an example is because I was meaning anything concerning serious crime or terrorism no matter where it was 10 years ago, present day or ten years from now.
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Post by Wasp on Oct 15, 2007 21:10:54 GMT
Again, I suppose it depends on what it is. If a copper is going to allow a death, drug dealing, pimping etc to happen then he shouldn't be a copper............. unless he's in on it like your man in The Departed! BUT you can't use hearsay as evidence, no matter who it's from, so you'd want to be sure adn to do that you'd have to investigate, which rules out forcing a friend to testify I agree but to investigate you may have to pass any relevant info on to your superiors. For example there are some police officers who I would say are very good at there job. Instead of jumping at every chance to get a name on there book they use common sense and good policing.
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Post by Jim on Oct 15, 2007 21:25:37 GMT
Would you pass on information that could be used against family members Wasp?
For example, if your son (if you have a son) was involved in drug dealing or a cousin was laundering fuel.
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Post by Wasp on Oct 15, 2007 21:43:11 GMT
Would you pass on information that could be used against family members Wasp? For example, if your son (if you have a son) was involved in drug dealing or a cousin was laundering fuel. As I said above I was not talking about family members, I said friends of family members and used setanta as an example because of those he knows and the circles he kept etc. Anyway to answer your question. If my son was involved in drug dealing I would take him to various rehab centres and projects where I would make sure he meets recovering addicts and hears as many of their stories as possible. The I would take him to the police station myself and after all is done I would do my best to get him away from the area and to go and live elsewhere but only after whatever punishment is dealt out. As far as laundering fuel with todays prices I would get him to give me it free or I would report him. ;D ;D
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