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Post by Wasp on Aug 9, 2007 20:53:10 GMT
How different? Well, for a start they're better at it than anyone else....If the Northern Bank robbery had happened in the Republic, the gardai would've been knocking on Bertie's door within minutes. Mind you Bertie, casually lighting a fag with a EU100 note would probably just have told them to "Feck off now lads and talk to my lawyer, we're having a bit of an ould ard fheis in here. Money? What money? I got a loan off a mate...." ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D That would make a great comedy sketch. You could play Bertie. ;D ;D |
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Post by Jim on Aug 9, 2007 22:19:33 GMT
If FF went up north they'd probably merge with the SDLP. I dont think it would seriously challenge SFs working class vote, it might challenge their new found vote from the younger generation, and maybe some middle class SF voters. I'd not vote for them or at the very least I'd give them something like 4th preference.
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Post by bearhunter on Aug 9, 2007 22:35:48 GMT
Ah but Jim, what everyone says about SF is that they ahve a great organisation, getting people out to vote, mobilising support and so forth. What they do there is like pissing in the wind compared to how FF can get things moving to raise support. Of course, FF would be accused of attempting to bring about a UI by stealth, but you can't deny they would offer a credible alternative to SF in that they are (nominally) republican, largely free of the stain of terrorism and incredibly successful at what they do.
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Post by Jim on Aug 10, 2007 20:33:32 GMT
Ah but Jim, what everyone says about SF is that they ahve a great organisation, getting people out to vote, mobilising support and so forth. What they do there is like pissing in the wind compared to how FF can get things moving to raise support. Of course, FF would be accused of attempting to bring about a UI by stealth, but you can't deny they would offer a credible alternative to SF in that they are (nominally) republican, largely free of the stain of terrorism and incredibly successful at what they do. It would take an extra-ordinary amount of work from FF to take a vote away from SF. The idea to vote for SF is heavily entrenched in most peoples minds and they arent going to stop quickly no matter how well greased FF is. It would take maybe 4 or 5 elections for it to start to kick in. All SF have to mention is "where was FF during internment" and they'll be running rings around FF  more like. Completely different story in the south ofcourse. The biggest winner of votes for FF I feel would be people thinking "oh they're in government in the south, it'll speed up us having a united island". Even then, a lot more will hope for SF to get into government if they sort out their shite southern strategy. They dont have the british army to fall back on down there |
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Post by An Fear Dubh on Aug 12, 2007 13:48:32 GMT
I can see Bearhunters point and in the south there is no doubt that FF are in a league of their own, and SF is not even top of division two. In the north it is very different, FF do not have the history or the support network, to mirror their southern machine. In the north SF are division one leaders, but they are not so far ahead of the rest. Because in the north there is the nationalist-unionist divide. So SF are only ahead in one half of the community in the south there is no big divide within the local communities. The other draw back for FF is that they have already aligned themselves with the SDLP in the north and that comes with baggage. For SF as they try to become a more acceptable face in the southern political arena, they face an image issue. Republicanism is catered for by FF and socialism is attributed to the Irish Labour Party.
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more like. Completely different story in the south ofcourse.