Ray McCord to attend Sinn Féin Ard Fheis

[Wasp]

Because he is playing right into sinn fein's hands, thats why.

[Jim]

He gets the benefit of getting his voice heard, some people will have paid close attention to this.

IMO, both parties get the benefits. SF get the benefit of having a token prod at their conference, and he gets the benefit of media attention that he wouldnt get otherwise for a justifiable cause.

[earl]

"He is not the first person to make an inappropriate use of the Orange Order or its symbols to make a political point and he is unlikely to be the last."
Aye. Having pictures of yourself rioting in a sash at whiterock in 2005, or having pictures of yourself , in a sash, standing friendly chatting to a C18 member at Drumcree in 2000 are not inappropriate, since no-one in the OO has ever condemned members for these, but God forbid you put a sash on at an SF ard feis, and speak about state collusion with terrorists!

[Wasp]

Earl am I the fucking OO? Why that usual anti Orange rant from yourself. He was on stage at a meeting that had terrorists and criminals in the audience and I am sure on stage. Isn't it ironic sf talking anything about collusion especially giving a stage to a man who feels he is a victim of it?

For your info Earl the OO refused membership to a lad because he has a small criminal offence which he commited through alcohol. 4 generations of his family were/are in the same lodge but they refused him because of the record. That in my book speaks volumes and why should anyone condemn anyone for speaking to a member of the idiotic combat18? Did the person know this guy was a member before talking to him etc?

Usual anti-Orange rant.

[earl]

wasp said:

Earl am I the fucking OO? Why that usual anti Orange rant from yourself. He was on stage at a meeting that had terrorists and criminals in the audience and I am sure on stage. Isn't it ironic sf talking anything about collusion especially giving a stage to a man who feels he is a victim of it?

For your info Earl the OO refused membership to a lad because he has a small criminal offence which he commited through alcohol. 4 generations of his family were/are in the same lodge but they refused him because of the record. That in my book speaks volumes and why should anyone condemn anyone for speaking to a member of the idiotic combat18? Did the person know this guy was a member before talking to him etc?

Usual anti-Orange rant.

?? I wasn't even Talking to you WASP. I quoted the article that Setanta posted. Did you write the article? Is your name Gemma Murray?

I'm not anti-OO, I'm anti-hypocrisy. The OO came out and blamed the PSNI for the riots back in 2005, yet there were photographs and videos of OO members, in full regalia battling with PSNI. They did not speak about anyone shaming the sash that day.

Looking at this situation through Unionist logic would make you think that most Unionists would be depressed about this, but are not. Here we have a PUL member, whose very proud of his heritage, whose son was killed by terrorists who are being protected by the state. He went to his own politicians, who all but ignored him. Peter Robinson promised that he'd name and shame at Westminister, as he did with suspected IRA members, but he never did. Distraught at the sheer ignorance, unwillingness and ineptitude of those politicians who claim to stand for him, and absolutely heartbroken with the loss of his son, he had to stand on stage with a bunch of 'terrorists' to be heard. Willie McCrea would stand shoulder to shoulder with Billy Wright, but no-one would stand with poor Raymond McCord. It would seem that Unionist politicians do not want to speak out against state terrorism, even though it affected their community too. This is proof that the 'holier than thou' attitude of most unionists is pure bollix. Terror is terror and murder is murder.