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Post by Wasp on Jan 29, 2008 17:42:00 GMT
Setanta he was still from Catholic bvackground and only left it at 9. Some kids never goto mass from an early age or church and they are still classed a sCatholic or Protestant. There are those including some on here who are no different, they are no longer Catholics but they still side with republicans in the sameway he was no longer Catholic but sided with loyalists.
Jim I see your point but try telling that to shades in his post. Yes I do believe it was the ira, it was hardly the Italian mafia.
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Post by Wasp on Jan 29, 2008 17:44:45 GMT
Sorry back on thread. Setanta in all seriousness thanks for the invite but it is all alien to me TBH. Apart from that if I really wanted to enjoy the gaa etc and get to know it better, I still couldn't as things stand. Try and understand that, it is nothing to do with anti-Irish or anything like it, it is entirely to do with what they allow to promote, commemorate and partly to do with there membership rules.
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Post by Shades40 on Jan 29, 2008 20:22:34 GMT
WASP stick to what I'm debating with you and quit comparing like with like.
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Post by tp on Jan 29, 2008 21:02:50 GMT
It's not just the locals, but the PSNI and the Garda Síochána have also pointed the finger at the IRA being responsible.
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Post by Wasp on Jan 29, 2008 21:32:18 GMT
I think I'll go see City play Arse this saturday  Jammy sod. I am for the milan game though. |
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Post by Wasp on Jan 29, 2008 21:34:26 GMT
WASP stick to what I'm debating with you and quit comparing like with like. I have no problem with that shades but you should practice it as well and say the same to everyone on here. You have like the rest of us on most threads compared like with like yourself. So before you point the finger put into practice what you want me to do. |
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Post by Shades40 on Jan 30, 2008 2:28:27 GMT
Shhh you bad insect  |
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Post by Jim on Jan 30, 2008 15:04:12 GMT
No but according to his avatar he's an electro group |
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Post by Wasp on Jan 30, 2008 17:44:22 GMT
Setanta I can't see it TBH. There are too many people including myself showing the otherside of the GAA to others who perhaps would not have known any different. Apart from that if there are any then it will be a tiny percentage and I mean tiny. The gaa is too Irish even for moderate Unionists.
But I do believe if the gaa removed certain cups, banned certain club names and fields and removed the rule on the singing of the soldier song before games etc there would be some (including myself)perhaps that would take a look to see what it is all about and perhaps some would become interested. Apart from that definately not.
Can you see any small r Republicans taking an interest in band parades (not orange parades just band parades) is similar to what you asked me.
p.s and I don't count stoning them or shouting abuse as an interest lol.
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Post by bearhunter on Jan 30, 2008 19:29:13 GMT
WASP, do you think that if the GAA was to bend over backwards in an effort to be more attractive to unionists (although why they would do so baffles me) do you think the marching bands would do likewise? Personally, I like pipe bands, although not the marching season ones, since they play shite music and usually aren't of the same standard of the Highland bands I see. (Although the Field Marshal Montgomery band is pure class).
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Post by Wasp on Jan 30, 2008 20:29:59 GMT
Well marching bands do not have any set rules for membership although being of Unionist stock is by far the most common thing amongst members. There are quite a few Catholics who go out to watch the bands but I can't see any republicans going to 'enjoy' them. Perhaps just like what has happened in the past the barring of FTP is something that could be considered. Saying that Church parades and the R. Black parades play mainly hyms which bothsides sing and listen to.
My favourite band tune would probably be sound of silence, while some bands aren't up to scratch many are absolutely brilliant and many people of all ages enjoy the music.
Perhaps bands were a bad example as one is sport mixed with cultural identity and the other is cultural identity.
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Post by Wasp on Jan 31, 2008 13:14:47 GMT
Setanta on the small n Nationalists mate you are completely wrong, I know many nationalist voters (sdlp) who take there kids down to watch parades especially the twelth. That is absolute fact and believe me when the twelth is in town many of these people are sitting out the front of there houses along with there Protestant neighbours enjoying the parade.
I have went to a mates house a few times for a carry out before going on a night out and if there is a band parade on his family are out the front watching it. They are sdlp voters and very devout Catholics. Not all is black and white as people think.
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Post by Jim on Jan 31, 2008 13:42:12 GMT
Why are we comparing loyalist marching bands to sport?
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Post by Shades40 on Jan 31, 2008 17:41:26 GMT
I went to a parade once to see what all the fuss was and if they were any good also they where laying a wreath at a war memorial that has my great uncles name on it |
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Post by Wasp on Jan 31, 2008 18:39:42 GMT
Setanta I know of one Catholic who is part of a colour party which leads the bands, I know one who played the big drum but apart from that I only know Catholics who board band buses to goto parades along with the band.
Saying that I do not know all band members or there religious make-up.
I agree Jim the two are hardly comparable.
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