DUP minister attends GAA Match

[Shades40]

But they are no more Catholic than IP is so what does it have to do with the price of bread exactly?

[Wasp]

Shades whether or not they are still Catholic or not is irrelevant, BA and Jim are no longer Catholics yet they are from a Catholic background and side with republicans, Setanta doesn't believe in it either but look at his current position. These people are the same but they turned to loyalism and some of them did so during the troubles. A few of them may still call themselves Catholic but have no interest in it, some may have left the Catholic faith completely and are no more Catholics than BA or Jim but the fact remains they were born Catholics into Catholic families, attended Catholic schools etc.

What is the nickname that people have for them in that area??

[Shades40]

"turned to loyalism" well if loyalism is torturing, burning homes and beating Protestants not to mention their drugs cartel/shooting Catholic journalist then loyalism is in big trouble, think their called the taig brigade.

[Wasp]

Ok maybe I should have worded that as loyalist extremists or something. So do you view republicanism in the same way as in burning homes, torturing, mass murder etc or is that view only held for loyalists?

Now why would they be called the taig brigade?

[Wasp]

Yeh clans as in families. When I said earlier I got my eyes opened a few months ago etc by a certain person, well this is where they are from. I would describe them as a die hard loyalist but a loose cannon. So I completely agree with you that there has been Catholics who have joined loyalist groups since the cease fires etc, but there has also been those who were involved during the troubles.

[Wasp]

Originally from that area, yes I am.

[earl]

Unionist paper resumes coverage of Gaelic games

The News Letter has resumed its coverage of Gaelic games following the first appearance of a senior DUP politician at a GAA match.

Around four years ago the Belfast-based unionist title halted all coverage of the biggest spectator sport in Northern Ireland.

This included not providing any sports reports of Ulster GAA's biggest days, including when Tyrone lifted the All-Ireland trophy at Croke Park in 2005.

However, last week saw the newspaper embrace GAA once more, with a report of a Dr McKenna Cup match and a feature on ladies' football.

It follows the decision of culture, arts and leisure minister Edwin Poots to attend a Dr McKenna Cup game between Down and Donegal at Pairc Esler in Newry earlier this month.

The News Letter editor Darwin Templeton said the decision to restart coverage was to provide a better service to readers.

"Until quite recently the News Letter did have a tradition of covering GAA," Mr Templeton said.

"This was a practice that was stopped a number of years ago for a number of different reasons before I was involved with the paper."

He said the paper felt there was an interest among its readership for the sports.

"I don't think we will pretend to offer the same extent of coverage that other papers including The Irish News do," he said.

"But we are always looking at ways of improving our service to our readers."

[Jim]

I dont think anyone could give the same extent the Irish news do. Can't get any bloody football news from that paper, its all GAA. Forces me to buy the daily mirror

[Shades40]

wasp said:

Ok maybe I should have worded that as loyalist extremists or something. So do you view republicanism in the same way as in burning homes, torturing, mass murder etc or is that view only held for loyalists?

Now why would they be called the taig brigade?

Yes WASP anyone who does that but how they can call themselves Loyalists and get support from that community when their doing it to fellow Loyalists I find bizarre. Their called that because they were born Catholics from mixed marriages I think, the stuff they get away with is unbelievable and anytime their in court they walk free (nothing to do with the fact 2 of the leaders are in relationships with ex policemen's daughters) a certain journalist from the Sunday World pointed this out every week.

[Wasp]

The fact they are friendly with ex policemens daughters is irrelevant and is nothing at all to do with anything apart from unfounded conspiracy. I know a dup councillors daughter who is engaged to a sinn fein party workers son, I know a policemans daughter who used to date a well known republican etc etc. Means nothing. Some may have come from mixed marriages but a few certainly weren't.

They may get support from that community but then so does the ira/rira etc from there communities and look what they done to their fellow republicans in their community. You seem to be singling out the lvf as being worse than anyother group. Plenty of republicans have got off with stuff that were unbelievable as well so it is the same for bothsides.

[Wasp]

setanta said:

Oh OK. Is he one of the Walshes?

Can you clarify the points from my earlier post please? I'm a wee bit slow today adn I'm still not getting what you were saying.

No and TBH I am in no way going to give out his name either publically or privately on here. The guy as I said is a loose cannon but to my surprize no-one from the area he now lives bothers with him as they know his reputation. It is just so strange someone with a strong southern accent singing the sash and speaking of there love and admiration for loyalist groups. ;D ;D

Anyway that is far from important.

[Shades40]

wasp said:

The fact they are friendly with ex policemens daughters is irrelevant and is nothing at all to do with anything apart from unfounded conspiracy. I know a dup councillors daughter who is engaged to a sinn fein party workers son, I know a policemans daughter who used to date a well known republican etc etc. Means nothing. Some may have come from mixed marriages but a few certainly weren't.

They may get support from that community but then so does the ira/rira etc from there communities and look what they done to their fellow republicans in their community. You seem to be singling out the lvf as being worse than anyother group. Plenty of republicans have got off with stuff that were unbelievable as well so it is the same for bothsides.

The difference with these scum is that they are planting bombs, beating people, burning homes, dealing drugs and every time they go to court for those actions I've listed they walk away free even though everybody in the town knows they are guilty and their victims have stood against them in court even though they receive beatings, bombings and have their homes, cars burnt out. Something is not right would you not agree? we aren't talking about Republicans we are talking about a certain element of the LVF and you really can't compare what they are doing to fellow Loyalists (13 years after the ceasefires) unless you support this section of Loyalists?

[Wasp]

So republicans aren't involved in beatings, shootings etc etc. What about Paul Quinn, everybody in the area know it was the ira? What about McCartney, everybody knows it was the ira? etc etc. What about the rira who are also republicans?

I am in no way excusing any action of the lvf and all these things should be condemned no matter who is responsible. Now when it comes to loyalists then they are guilty even if found not guilty, when it comes to republicans then as you are aware it is a different story. We are told they were freed by a court so they are not, or if found guilty it is a case of who says because the courts are unfair and that is all even with plenty of witnesses. I can understand your anger and hurt at there actions but they are not the only ones and you know it so it is unfair to put them on a par worse than anyother republican group.

When did they last kill someone and when did the ira last kill someone?

PS I have never supported the lvf nor do I have time for them.

[Jim]

I read in a paper the other day that there over 100 suspects for the Paul Quinn case. You will forever say it was the IRA because its what you heard first, theres nothing to say it was the IRA, "everyone knows" doesnt cut it, British law goes by innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent (although they like to forget about that sometimes)

[Jim]

I think I'll go see City play Arse this saturday