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Post by Wasp on Dec 2, 2007 19:15:06 GMT
So what proof was there that these files were taken and destroyed? What proof was there to show what exactly was in these files that would prove anything?
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Post by Wasp on Dec 2, 2007 19:35:05 GMT
Well there is no point talking to me if you are going to address me with that language or talking down to me like that. I have as much right as anyone to give my opinion and my feelings on things, if you disagree fair enough but that doesn't make me wrong. Do not talk down to me like I am a school kid, curse away all you want in your posts but don't curse at me when you are telling me what to do.
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Post by Wasp on Dec 2, 2007 20:07:01 GMT
Apologies  No problem at all. |
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Post by bearhunter on Dec 3, 2007 19:20:21 GMT
So when are SF going to sever their ties with these "ex" IRA men in South Armagh who killed Quinn? Or when are they going to come out and say unequivocally that such acts are wrong and shouldm not happen? Because they are being very fucking quiet about it all and they must surely realise the damage this does to them to be associated even tangentially with a bunch of cretinous bullies who were afraid to take on Quinn unless they were mob-handed. And I don't think sidelining the thread down the O'Loan-is-a-liar road is either useful or relevant, WASP, given that you wouldn't believe it was any more than "a few bad apples, and och sure who could blame them?" if the queen herself told you that the RUC was up to its neck in it.
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Post by Blue Angel on Dec 3, 2007 22:15:42 GMT
um just a question wasp - you said that, ,'collusion is an alleged activity which comes in many forms', how can an activity which is only alleged come in any form at any all ?
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Post by Wasp on Dec 3, 2007 22:16:58 GMT
(Diana Rusk, Irish News) A group set up to support the family of murder victim Paul Quinn has accused Sinn Féin councillors in south Armagh of "deafening silence" about his death. The Quinn Support Group last night (Friday) called on the four councillors representing the area to speak out about the killing of the 21-year-old man. A statement criticised Terry Hearty, Colman Burns, Anthony Flynn, and PJ McDonald for not attending the victim's funeral or a public meeting in Cullyhanna this week.Mr Quinn's family have said they believe that the IRA was responsible for beating him to death at a farm shed in Co Monaghan last month, but Sinn Féin has insisted no republicans were involved and suggested the killing was linked to a criminal dispute. A statement from the group said the councillors should state their views on the murder. "The silence of these four councillors on the murder of Paul Quinn is now deafening," the group said. "Over the last few weeks they have expressed strong opinions on everything from rates relief to the Warm Homes Scheme and social housing, as they should, but on the matter of brutal premeditated murder they have nothing to say."The group also questioned why none of the councillors attended Mr Quinn's funeral, a memorial Mass, or a public meeting at which his family appealed for information. "These councillors knocked all our doors at election times, pledging their support for us if we would give our support to them. And we did," the statement said."But when payback time came – when a family was faced with just about the most horrific event anyone is ever likely to face – they were nowhere to be seen." However, one of the councillors named by the group, PJ McDonald, insisted their position was "well known and clear" and that he "fully" supported the Quinn family. "You can only have one opinion on this murder and that is that it is a dastardly act, whatever the reason behind it," he said. "We hope whoever carried out this murder is caught and anyone with evidence should go to the guards or the police." Mr McDonald said he did not attend the group's public meeting because a party decision was made to support the family and not the Quinn Support Group.
He added that he did not attend the funeral because members of the group "made it clear" republicans were not welcome.  Meanwhile, SDLP assembly member Dominic Bradley said Newry and Armagh MP and executive minister Conor Murphy should give police and gardai more information about his party's assurances that republicans were not involved. |
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Post by bearhunter on Dec 4, 2007 1:13:47 GMT
Well, SF know who they are (or at least can find out pretty quickly) so why not redeem their besmirched honour by giving the cops a nudge in the right direction? All I'm saying is that these blokes have done terrible damage to SF.
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Post by Jim on Dec 4, 2007 1:29:15 GMT
The police can find out just as quickly, if they're really a proper police force.
apparently.
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Post by Jim on Dec 4, 2007 11:36:27 GMT
Should tell them and get it over with.
Can't see the leadership being loyal to a couple of lads that are ruining their image.
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Post by Wasp on Dec 4, 2007 16:56:23 GMT
The police can find out just as quickly, if they're really a proper police force. apparently. But are sinn fein not telling people to go to the psni with info, so why can't they practice what they preach? Basically you don't want to see any republican reporting another republican to the police, you would rather just let the police do their best to find out themselves. |
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Post by Wasp on Dec 4, 2007 16:57:36 GMT
Oops just saw your post saying they should tell and get it over with. Good man yourself.
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Post by Jim on Dec 4, 2007 17:27:38 GMT
The local SF reps around west belfast are telling people to contact the police instead of them. My own mam was told that when she approached SF about trouble makers. The Police also tell you to contact "Community watch".
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