Christmas Tree row

[Blue Angel]

since the IRA are scum for apparently targetting men, women and children that puts all armies under that heading. The British army and all other major armies have regulary killed men, women and children and pretendign the powers that be don't know that's a logical outcome of chucking heavy artillery around is disingenouss to say the least. The pragamtic reality is that ALL armies accept that some civilians dying is a likely outcome of war and at best will try to minimise and at worst they don't give a f***. Do not try telling me that say for example a howitzer fired at a city block or bombing raids are discriminate weapons in the same way pistols or a revolver might plausibly be. Terrorist is what big armies call little ones - there's not much difference been killed by a Tornado throwing bombs down or a fertiliser bomb -you're still equally dead. Or is the implication that govts. killing is somehow more righteous? You are digging a deep hole for yourself in this thread WASP as you are condemning one level of violence and accepting another. And the comment was meant to wake you up to yourself - you are saying that attacking bernadette mcaliskey's home was a good thing but seem unable to see how this means having said that you lose the moral high ground you are trying to speak from. A mother unfortunately survives an attack carried out in front of her kids - hmmmmm.

[Wasp]

BA fuck you and your anylysing of my posts. The ira purposely targeted civillians in busy streets many times, there target was not a military one but a civillian one and that happened many times over. Like the nuns who were accidentally killed, whom the ira apologised immediately for their deaths etc, their target was military. (apparently). When the ira bombed busy streets there was no military target and funny enough no apology. Says alot about their sectarian nature.

In answering your and Jim's comments no attack is worth risking kids being killed or having seeing their parents killed. You should know all about that from the tactics the organisation you support used over and over again. Who were the men who risked life and limb defusing your armies bombs to save others? Who threw themselves infront of doorways to save civillians from bombs and took the full force of the blast?? Men who were trying to protect the innocents regardless of religious outlook or anything else.

After the attack happened I said pity she survived it, that does not mean I supported an attack infronyt of her family.

BTW if I need a wake up call I will use an alarm clock, not some tosser who pretends to be someone else, then eventually reveals a little bit more and tries to say they have always held them views. Take a good look at your own doorstep and the murderers you supported before accusing me of anything.

[Jim]

It does mean you support it. You either condemn or condone it, there are no inbetweens when it comes to murder and attempted murder.

[Wasp]

Twist away all you want Jim, I am well used to it now from republicans.

[Jim]

I'm not twisting anything I'm calling it as I see it you are fine with the murder of a mother because shes a republican.

[Wasp]

Yeh whatever, watever vicky pollard.

[Jim]