Farming and the Economy

[An Fear Dubh]

Thank God the Sinn Féin minister Michelle acted swiftly to save the day!

[Harry]

What's really the issue here then cos surely to the man in the sky you aren't really suggesting that we are somehow now not British or that we would sell ourselves to the Republic for a few quid??? What steps were taken make perfect sense, not common sense to just Unionists but sense on the whole for all the farmers within our region. If SF or whoever want to try and turn this into some issue of how we all need to be Irish then let them, i honestly have better things and more worrying things to contend with than this.

The whole British/GB/UK whatever shouldn't even be brought into this. Sensible steps were taken whether it be SF that did them or not. Should we in NI stop exporting beef because our fellow country men are having trouble across the water or should we try and carry on as normal just as we would expect the mainland to do if the virus had been found on our shores???

[Jim]

halflife said:

jim said:

The point is the same whether its the UK or Britain, loyalist arguements are solely based on the idea of Britishness.

If the points are the same then it ruins loyalist arguements for Ulster being "british soil". Cant have it both ways man!

As harry says, this is a very poor attempt to score points against loyalism. As you well know we are not part of great britain, we have never been part of great britain, we are part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and if you look at a British passport there it says clearly emblazioned on the front of it that exact title, and then of course if you look inside that passport it says that the person is a member of the United Kingdom of Great Britain or in other words a british citzen. So you tell me how not wanting to be classified as part of great britain which we have never been part of anyway, dimminishs our Britishness.

Thats only on official title lines. Britains system is full of titles for this and that but they dont mean anything. We were ruled by Westminster through direct rule for years, we vote to Westminster and our MPs are no different to that of England, we are effectively in practise part of Britain, and unionists are always quick to point out that we are on "British soil", not "UK soil", nor do they call themselves "UK citizens", they refere to themselves as "British citizens". Great Britain is an official name.

[Jim]

harry said:

What's really the issue here then cos surely to the man in the sky you aren't really suggesting that we are somehow now not British or that we would sell ourselves to the Republic for a few quid??? What steps were taken make perfect sense, not common sense to just Unionists but sense on the whole for all the farmers within our region. If SF or whoever want to try and turn this into some issue of how we all need to be Irish then let them, i honestly have better things and more worrying things to contend with than this.

The whole British/GB/UK whatever shouldn't even be brought into this. Sensible steps were taken whether it be SF that did them or not. Should we in NI stop exporting beef because our fellow country men are having trouble across the water or should we try and carry on as normal just as we would expect the mainland to do if the virus had been found on our shores???

Nope! The issue what I see is that unionist leaders would be willing to not call their produce British for the day so they wont be subject to bans.

To be quite honest I'm only doing a bit of point scoring because the issue came up, if it was the other way around (republicans wanting nowt to do with southern produce) no doubt we'd have blueman coming in ranting and raving. I dont really care about it in the end as long as I get to have some steak later on.

[An Fear Dubh]

I agree Jim but it is good to see all the Unionist posters here supporting the actions of the Sinn Féin minister. And even when pushed refuse to turned from their support for Sinn Féin.

[Harry]

Likewise its good to see Republicans admitting their only doing a bit of point scoring, something they usually claim to be so against....i might as well join in ;D ;D

With the new government i fully expect SF ministers to make good choices otherwise they shouldn't be in the positions they are. I'm not going to go against something just because SF actioned it and i'm fully prepared to give credit where its due. On the whole i think the entire Government from Westminister down to our own local leaders have reacted swiftly to the crisis and fingers crossed the action will help all the farmers who have struggled enough.

[He_Who_Walks_in_The_Wilderness]

you poor souls, is the quest for a untied ireland going that badly that you have to use cows to try and further your case. Yes jim great britain is an offical title, its and offical title for the land mass that makes up england, scotland and wales. This is of course all in the public domain you can check it out if you want, even republicans favroute wikepidea will bare this out. As to the rest semmantics nothing more, falkland islands are not in great britain nor is gibraultar for that matter but they are still british citzens

[Jim]

halflife said:

you poor souls, is the quest for a untied ireland going that badly that you have to use cows to try and further your case. Yes jim great britain is an offical title, its and offical title for the land mass that makes up england, scotland and wales. This is of course all in the public domain you can check it out if you want, even republicans favroute wikepidea will bare this out. As to the rest semmantics nothing more, falkland islands are not in great britain nor is gibraultar for that matter but they are still british citzens

Taking it a bit seriously arent you? Official titles dont mean much in practise. Thats my point. Not to do with a united Ireland that was a bit of banter at best.

What I should mention is NI produce should be pushing themselves as NI produce or Irish produce, not British produce, because diseases dont care about politics, they go by geographical area.