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Post by Wasp on Aug 26, 2011 10:22:44 GMT
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Post by leeside on Aug 26, 2011 15:02:29 GMT
What do you mean 'this is all nonsense'. Are you saying that the cross community projects are lies or are all made up? The GAA has its faults wasp but it is making strides. Your reluctance to accept this makes it obvious that no matter what they do it wouldn't change your attitude of them.
I fully understand your point regarding the naming of grounds/trophies after republican paramilitaries but in the communities that these paramilitaries came from they were not considered terrorists in the same way loyalist paramilitaries are not considered terrorists by loyalists. I even noticed recently the hypocrisy of loyalists in this regard where on a certain website (dont get angry with me ;D ) i see an article about the 'evil' GAA and its glorifying of terrorists and the horror of such, yet on the same page there is a thread entitled 'remembering volunteer' such and such and people paying homage to said dead loyalist paramilitary. Utter hypocrisy and hard to take seriously their 'horror' at local GAA clubs doing the same.
There are a number of grounds and tournaments named after dead republican paramilitaries, Wasp. This is wrong and should be addressed. However, this is a tiny minority and should not be used to tarnish the entire organisation. Even though i know you will regardless.
I cant speak for the degenerate drug dealing scum of the LVF but im pretty sure that those 'catholics' are not the baptized, had there communion and confirmation type of catholic. If so then poor Billy would be turning in his grave. Or are they moving to a more cross community type of drug dealing? Small steps i guess....
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Post by Wasp on Aug 26, 2011 20:42:52 GMT
Completely untrue, your claim of strides is absolute nonesense, the links I posted are proof. How can you claim to be a sporting body and being involved in cross community etc when you have the things that hurt the other community the most being glorified and commemorated throughtout gaa grounds.
Not all catholics in those communities thought the same, they hate this as much as I do. The authorities on bothsides of the border and the governments know exactly that these people are terrorists so claiming that those in the community dont should have no reflection on a sporting body, unless of course that same sporting body supported these terrorists.
You cant have a go at one and not the other, that said they are posting remerance about a volunteer, they are not having sporting grounds and tournamnets named after them, then claiming to be reaching out to the other community and claiming to be a non sectarian all inclusive sporting body.
Re read what I have said, I dont class all gaa supporters as the same, but the fact remains in N.Ireland this practice is quite widespread and is allowed to go on. I dont care so much about the ROI as its nothing really to do with me, I dont live there and am no part of there. At least you say it is wrong so I couldnt class you as being the same as those who support it even though you may be a big gaa fan.
Sorry your wrong mate, I cant speak for them all in the sameway I cant say all Protestants are baptized but the ones I do speak of have had all that you said. A few that I know still attend mass and one of them is/was a traveller and you know how religious they can be concerning their faith. You do know one of Billys top men is a catholic? And the lvf in his area is nicknamed the catholic squad or something like that.
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Post by leeside on Aug 29, 2011 23:08:50 GMT
As i said already Wasp, if the GAA want to reach out to the unionist community then it has address the issue of naming grounds and trophies after republican paramilitaries. I accept that completely. They are however progressing. I see that by its actions over the last number of years. You claim that its not enough and thats your opinion. You say its 'sectarian to the core' and i completely dispute that not only because of its open door policy of allowing anyone join regardless of race, colour or creed but also because i used to be a member of the GAA and saw for myself what its all about. It has nothing to do with religion. You seem to make your judgement based on there being a tiny minority of grounds and trophies named after dead paramilitaries. I believe that your conclusion based on this is completely inaccurate. It has republican leanings yes but that does not mean that its 'sectarian to the core' by any means. I think you tend to broad-stroke the 'sectarian' tag a little too easily.
Now can we wrap this thread up by agreeing to disagree? Its giving me a headache. ;D
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Post by Wasp on Aug 30, 2011 19:04:53 GMT
Ok we agree to disagree BUT.......... lol
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