ira and punishment attacks

[Wasp]

From 2004;

LOYALIST and republican paramilitaries have carried out 1,700 punishment attacks in the North since 1998, PSNI Chief Constable Hugh Orde revealed yesterday.And he claimed that the rising number of IRA shootings and beatings are also tightly controlled and halted during crucial election periods.

Mr Orde's assessment backed a ceasefire watchdog's recent dossier which highlighted the Provisionals' ability to switch off the violence during Sinn Féin's ballot box battles.

The chief constable told a meeting of the Northern Ireland Policing Board there have been 613 republican assaults since January 1998 most the work of the IRA..........

In one case, all punishments were stopped for a two-month period in the run-up to last November's Stormont elections.


Nice party you belong to setanta, a party of thugs who control thugs and a party that turns on and off the punishment beatings and shootings when it suits them. What democratic party that is meant to support peace, law and order would be allowed to get away with this.

Here are some of your claims on this thread;

'But during the conflict there was no viable alternative.'

'When there was an opportunity for alternatives then the alternatives were grasped with both hands and the beatings ended.'

'And WASP, I know when an alternative was on offer the beatings ended. If you disagree then EXPLAIN why.'

Obviously you dont know much about this subject or you are in denial. I have explained why and I have put to bed more of your myths.




Jim this is the type of people your community votes for so both deserve eachother, people who votte for thugs are endorsing the behaviour of thugs.

[Wasp]

From 2005;

............Despite all the efforts, all the political sacrifices by the mainstream parties, Sinn Fein was still standing alone, the only party in Dail, and for that matter on the entire island, that is incapable of subscribing to same set of values that regards the killing of a widowed mother or a garda detective as a crime.

................Making direct eye-contact with Mr O Caolain, the Taoiseach noted he had his differences with the opposition parties but he never had to deal with anything other than their political arguments. There was never a question of anyone associated with Fine Gael or Labour resorting to the kind of savagery metted out by the IRA.

And just in case the Sinn Fein TDs were at loss to understand what he meant he calmly and politely read a list of recent punishment beatings from the vicious shootings of young men in the hands to individuals dragged into laneways to endure beatings that reduced their bodies to pulp.

The delivery was chilling - the pretence that has surrounded much of the peace process in recent years was stripped away. Here was the Taoiseach telling Mr O Caolain and his colleagues, including Martin Ferris who was identified by the Tanaiste, Mary Harney as a member of the IRA Army Council that their movement was able to turn off the punishment beatings during recent negotiations and then resort back to them when those negotiations reached an impasse.

In sharp contrast to the near hysterical denunciations from Mr O Caolain, the Taoiseach coolly rounded off his litany of deliberately controlled punishment beatings with devastating indictment of the Sinn Fein ranks: "I'll give you full marks for discipline, but I'll give you full marks for nothing else."

[Wasp]

From 2005;

The past week has seen an unprecedented turning point in local attitudes towards the IRA. More than 600 people gathered for a candlelight street vigil in defiance of Mr McCartney's killers. Residents in the Short Strand, which has suffered decades of sectarian violence, would once not have challenged the standing of the IRA, seen as defenders of the community. But some said the vigil was a sign of the growing unease at the criminal activities of what one person called a "Goodfellas" gang of IRA "peacetime" paramilitaries. People complained of IRA punishment beatings, racketeering, intimidation and sexual violence over recent years.
In an area with its own republican murals, once unthinkable graffiti appeared on one wall last week: "PIRA [Provisional IRA] scum out".

The source said that in recent years, local IRA members had caused fear with their regime of summary justice. They had carried out punishment beatings, shootings and exilings. Within the past few weeks they had punished a 17-year-old by shooting him through the hands in a new style of attack named after "Padre Pio", a monk said to carry signs of the stigmata. The teenager was shot after he was involved in a fight.

Another source said local IRA members had been involved in crime in recent years, including robberies, protection rackets and sexual violence.

One woman in the Short Strand said witnesses would be intimidated: "They [the IRA] have too much power. People will be too scared to give evidence. Whatever the [IRA] do, it seems they can't get caught. Everyone turns a blind eye. We feel like we are at a dead end."

When police investigating the murder carried out searches in the nationalist Markets area last week, they were attacked by children and teenagers throwing bricks, bottles and stones. Sinn Féin said the police had been "heavy handed".

[Wasp]

From 2008;

“A number of young men were told to come to the mart in Crossmaglen for a chat with some masked men,” he revealed. “After the interview, they were told to return another night for administration of the ASBOs. And they went.”

Mr Bradley went on to contrast this scenario with what he described as Sinn Fein’s ritualistic calls for people to co-operate with the police.

“However, we have a number of community alert or community safety groups in south Armagh which were set up by the Provisional movement and I do not believe they are co-operating with the police as they should,” he added. “There are good people involved in them, often people who believed they were a way of stopping punishment beatings, but it really is time for them to move on.

“They certainly must not operate as a referral agency for the masked men in the sale yard. I find it very difficult to believe that none of these groups has ever heard of the punishment beatings and warnings of beatings that are still going on.

“But what I do know is that none of these groups has ever highlighted or spoken out about these beatings or about paramilitary community control and I have no record of them calling for co-operation with the police.”

[Wasp]

From 2008;

Reports from Tyrone say that former Provisional IRA members banded together and were responsible for the expulsion of nine suspected drug dealers from Dungannon in the past two weeks.

In a well-planned operation, the houses of the nine alleged drug dealers were visited by armed men who ordered all the occupants to leave the town and never return, the sources said. The town's police station was closed at the time because of a bomb scare.

The incident was not reported but has been confirmed by reliable local sources. One said it was an "East Tyrone operation", referring to the East Tyrone brigade of the IRA.............

According to sources in Dublin, the IRA has also moved against the Irish National Liberation Army which has been recruiting and has carried out at least four murders in the past year. The INLA has been kidnapping and extorting "protection" money from drug dealers in the North and in Dublin.