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Post by Wasp on Oct 18, 2009 12:03:33 GMT
Absolutely digustin and unforgivable
Church accused of delaying hunt for abuse priest
Thursday October 15 2009
GARDAI investigating the abuse of an altar boy by a priest were "given the run around by Church authorities" as they tried to locate the accused man for questioning.
Detective Sergeant Joseph McLoughlin told Judge Katherine Delahunt at Dublin Circuit Criminal Court that gardai located the accused after a tip-off, 10 years after first being made aware of the allegations.
The elderly priest who can't be named for legal reasons admits indecently assaulting the boy on dates between 1979 and 1983, when the victim was aged between 11 and 14 years.
Judge Delahunt adjourned sentencing until early next year.
The maximum sentence for this offence is two years imprisonment. Det Sgt McLoughlin told prosecutor Pieter Le Vert that the boy was abused in the priest's home, on trips to the beach, and in the man's car.
A complaint was made to the gardai in 1995 but the investigation "ran into the sand".
The victim contacted the Garda Commissioner in 2002 to check on the case, but efforts to locate the accused proved fruitless. Det Sgt McLoughlin said gardai got "the run around from Church authorities".
He said the accused told gardai he remembered the boy and admitted touching him inappropriately.
He said his memory was not great and he expressed remorse.
- Fiona Ferguson
Irish Independent
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Post by Royalist0007 on Oct 18, 2009 14:51:58 GMT
Post removed. Read the rules.
Harry
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Post by Wasp on Oct 18, 2009 15:27:04 GMT
Aidan I am not so sure if it is really you or another person pretending to be you. Eitherway could you perhaps use a different way to express your words. For example I know many catholics who are good decent people just like I know many Protestants who are the same. I would not call any of them filth or subhuman or faggots or transexuals etc etc. Now concerning catholic doctrine then the word filth would be appropriate for much of it, concerning the vile monsters within the rcc then the word subhuman is approprate. As for people being publically flogged for there choice of sexual preference then that is absolutely absurd BUT you are entitled to your opinion AND express your opinion, just try no to have such broad sweeping comments against everyone of whatever faith.  |
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Post by Blue Angel on Oct 18, 2009 15:48:35 GMT
In reverse order - one, what you think is Catholic doctrine and what really are often seem to be lightyears apart WASP. Secondly, it's impossible to be seriously offended by Aidan, instead I feel sorry for him, I've long thought he has mental problems or issues which deserve our sympathy. I really think this is him again as if you do a search on the user name royalist0007 you find it popping up (and been banned) on numerous forums, including several protestant ones, some loyalist ones, and even of all things a somali forum.
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Post by collina on Oct 18, 2009 16:50:44 GMT
Aidan,
would you be prepared to personally hang people?
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Post by Wasp on Oct 18, 2009 17:33:20 GMT
I dont think anything on the parts of dcotrine I post, it all comes from the vatican itself.
I too feel sorry for him, but any issue he may have is his business.
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Post by Wasp on Oct 18, 2009 17:46:02 GMT
I think what you think catholic doctrine is and what it reall is are lightyears apart. Do I or do I not quote from the catholic Catechism and encylopedia for example??
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Post by Blue Angel on Oct 18, 2009 18:10:12 GMT
yes without understanding them or the context usually - but this isn't the thread for this discussion. The origianl point of the thread was to address the issue of the hunt for this priest been deliberately waylaid. I'd admit that at times the Irish Church has been astounding arrogant and wanted to keep everything in the 'family' so to speak and rather than admit problems or allow priests to be prosecuted has kept on transferring people around the place.
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Post by Wasp on Oct 18, 2009 18:45:18 GMT
yes without understanding them or the context usually - but this isn't the thread for this discussion. The origianl point of the thread was to address the issue of the hunt for this priest been deliberately waylaid. I'd admit that at times the Irish Church has been astounding arrogant and wanted to keep everything in the 'family' so to speak and rather than admit problems or allow priests to be prosecuted has kept on transferring people around the place. You are joking aren't you?? |
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Post by Wasp on Oct 18, 2009 18:47:23 GMT
Could you please expalin the first part of what you said on the other thread, I will make a start.
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Post by Royalist0007 on Oct 18, 2009 20:21:22 GMT
Blue Angel,
I am not banned from the Somali forum at all.
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Aidan.
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Post by Blue Angel on Oct 18, 2009 20:38:41 GMT
Aidan, by no means all priests are umarried - you betray your ignorance when you make that assertion, the majority are, but about 5 percent of all priests belong to the Easter Catholic Church and marriage is allowed in most of the rites that make up this, also many Anglican priests who converted have been married. My mistake you are not yet banned from the Somali forum  All Humans deserve to be treated with dignity and respect, certainly the Church doesn't believe in homosexaulity (a point where it and I contend to be honest) but your views on how homosexual people should be treated are disgusting. |
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Post by Royalist0007 on Oct 18, 2009 20:47:19 GMT
Content Removed.
We are all for debate but we have rules in this forum.
Abide by them and you are welcome.
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Post by Blue Angel on Oct 18, 2009 20:55:05 GMT
The issue of whether homosexual individuals should be allowed to adopt or not is an entirely seperate issue from treating them with individual dignity. I'd take a conservative line on allowing gay adoption but I'd outrightly say arguing for mass executions as your doing here is morally misguided - and that's understating it by several orders of magnitude.
If you are arguing gay people are suffering from a mental illness then you are arguing their responsibility is diminshed, you are essentially arguing the 'useless eaters' point of view of the Nazi regime.
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Post by Wasp on Oct 18, 2009 22:18:40 GMT
Royalist as I am sure you will see I agree with very little of what BA says, concerning some topics if not most I find him to be hypocritical where he applies double standards to his viewpoints. But he is entitled to his viewpoints and religious beliefs no matter how insane they are.
But on this concerning what you have said I am agreeing with him in most if not all of his post. The reason for homosexuality is really open for debate and that would cover natural feelings to childhood experiences to sinful perverted lust, which BTW could be applied to all sexual preferences.
If it is soley a mental illness then surely they could be cured and I am sure you would not support people suffering from a mental illness to be killed.
I totally oppose a gay couple adopting a child, it wasnt Adam and Steve, it was Adam and Eve. But if I was given the choice of keeping a child in harsh conditions where he/she suffers from starvation and torture etc and having a gay couple adopting the child then I would have to go for the gay couple.
Let God be our judge.
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