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Post by He_Who_Walks_in_The_Wilderness on Apr 13, 2008 21:38:09 GMT
and i am talking about republican monments in general, so tell me again which miltary operation does the warrenpoint british army memorial commerates and how many civilians were killed?
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Post by Wasp on Apr 14, 2008 21:27:20 GMT
But what were the intentions of those remembered by the edentubber monument and what previous actions did they carry out or plan etc?
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Post by Wasp on Apr 15, 2008 21:19:27 GMT
Hardly would be the same now setanta would it considering the fact many of the ira targets were civillians and the fact they went out with the purpose of killing civillians.
You really are showing yourself up here especially the fact you are defending dissidents.
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Post by Wasp on Apr 16, 2008 19:31:01 GMT
So was that there first and only terrorist attack if they hadn't of blew themselves up?
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Post by Wasp on Apr 16, 2008 21:01:23 GMT
Did they like the ira during the troubles kill or maim civillians? Pity alot more of them weren't taken out when they attempted to target enemy forces with their cowardly actions. They are nothing more than dissidents just like the dissidents today.
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Post by He_Who_Walks_in_The_Wilderness on Apr 16, 2008 21:16:48 GMT
Terrorist attacks??? Well they were involved in actions against enemy forces. It's all in the link I posted earlier. Yer nice neutral links, on another point seems republicans have got a thing for play acting with 'fake' guns these days of course if a loyalists tried to commerate the old UVF and 36th ulster divsion with old fake rifles republicans would fall over themselves to complaign |
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Post by bearhunter on Apr 17, 2008 1:13:34 GMT
Terrorist attacks??? Well they were involved in actions against enemy forces. It's all in the link I posted earlier. I have to ask this Setanta - on whose authority and with whose mandate? Certainly not the government of the republic, or indeed the people of the republic. Enemy forces? I don't recall a war between two countries anywhere near Edentubber at the time they were killed. |
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Post by Wasp on Apr 17, 2008 10:41:53 GMT
Terrorist attacks??? Well they were involved in actions against enemy forces. It's all in the link I posted earlier. I have to ask this Setanta - on whose authority and with whose mandate? Certainly not the government of the republic, or indeed the people of the republic. Enemy forces? I don't recall a war between two countries anywhere near Edentubber at the time they were killed. Good points BH and that is why they were nothing more than dissidents, yet commemorated by sinn fein who condemn modern dissidents. |
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Post by Bilk on Apr 17, 2008 18:26:34 GMT
Yer nice neutral links, on another point seems republicans have got a thing for play acting with 'fake' guns these days of course if a loyalists tried to commerate the old UVF and 36th ulster divsion with old fake rifles republicans would fall over themselves to complaign maybe that's because they may not be fakes seeing as there's been no UVF decomissioning. bearhunter, there was no political alternative at that time. Pardon? Ireland was a one party state at the time? I don't remember that ever being the case. |
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Post by bearhunter on Apr 17, 2008 20:30:34 GMT
I don't either. I see no reason why the border campaign should be commemorated at all, given that it was unpopular down south and an utter failure militarily. It wasn't a case of "no political alternative" Setanta, it was a case of a bunch of diehard headcases deciding that they knew better than everyone else in the country. I have no problem with SF putting up memorials to whoever, but to demand that everyone should respect them and bow their heads in passing is a bit rich coming from a minor fringe political party.
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Post by bearhunter on Apr 17, 2008 21:27:52 GMT
I can understand the not smashing with sledgehammers bit entirely. I don't think any monument should have that treatment. Mind you, SF and its supporters haven't exactly been kind to statues in the past have they? Crying foul when it happens to one of theirs is a bit rich for my taste.
As for SF's political size, I was referring to the republic.
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Post by He_Who_Walks_in_The_Wilderness on Apr 21, 2008 21:05:23 GMT
I can't think of a member of my party that went out in the middle of the night and destroyed a monument like that ....Unless you know who sent Nelson into space? My family are from the inner city and they always maintained that it was an American.... local folk-lore that changes from pub to pub. Happy enough to vanadlise orange halls though, oh i forgot tat member of your party was just up on the roof of the orange hall to admire the view |
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Post by Wasp on Apr 21, 2008 21:07:49 GMT
I can't think of a member of my party that went out in the middle of the night and destroyed a monument like that ....Unless you know who sent Nelson into space? My family are from the inner city and they always maintained that it was an American.... local folk-lore that changes from pub to pub. Happy enough to vanadlise orange halls though, oh i forgot tat member of your party was just up on the roof of the orange hall to admire the view ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by He_Who_Walks_in_The_Wilderness on Apr 22, 2008 17:14:55 GMT
He was OGRA SHINN FÉIN. And I think you should take that up with the PSNI. And makes a difference? why should i take it up with the PSNI when i have a member of that young persons parant party, just what are out teaching these future politicans of yours? blantant hyprocisy for start, now about the ogra sinn fein song, can you exlpain how that fits into the whole reaching out to unionists thing |
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Post by Wasp on Apr 23, 2008 14:17:37 GMT
was he vandeling the Hall? No he was up there bird watching or star gazing. Now could you answer wilderness's question in his previous post about the words of the song etc? |
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