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Post by collina on May 23, 2008 15:07:25 GMT
Exactly Tony Blair had to apologise for the famine to Nationalists as part of the peace process.. Thats incorrect. 1 Tony Blair did not have to apologize ti Nationalists as part of the peace process. 2 Tony Blair did not apologise for the famine to Nationalists as part of the peace process. Can you please support your asertion? The Irish verion of that famine as you put it mate is that it ignored protestants, and those who wished to remain British, And attacked only the farms of nationalist Irish. It is your famine it's not mine, my ancestors never suffered from it. It has been part and parcel of the republican movement ever since it happened, like it was the fault of the Brits. So convinced are the Brits by this rhetoric they feel they have to apologise for it in the 21st century ffs. Tony didn't apologise to the rest of the UK for the treatment they received in the same period, only the Irish. It was a famine it happened, it had absolutely nothing to do with politics, but it is touted by republicans wherever they go as an example of how the Brits treated the Irish. And whether you like it or not they start being taught that verion in school. That's incorrect. How do you know what is being thought in Irish schools.? I would be very interested to know the facts behind your assertion. We were thought about the famine and religion never came into it once. My mother who is quite a soft Republican always told us the English abandoned everyone on the Island. I think that would be the opinion of most Irish people. |
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Post by earl on May 23, 2008 15:59:52 GMT
It would seem that there is a general consensus that we are all taught hate as part of our curriculum. We are taught our history. If bad things happened, so be it. They are not being taught to breed hate, they are taught because they happened.
Remember, we're not the ones burning flags on our national day of celebration (or on the night before), so being told that we are being bred as hatemongers is rich to say the least.
My friends sister was severely verbally abused with a load of sectarian jibes recently by a gang of young lads in Antrim, purely because she was in a southern registered car. So where did they learn their hate from? I had a friend a few years ago who had his car vandalized for the very same reason. These people were just up on business and were doing no more than they'd do anywhere else in Europe, and yet they had to deal with overtly sectarian attitudes, just because their vehicles had southern registrations. Hate is borderless and is not sectarian. It exists in both our communities. It's taught in the homes and on the street.
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Post by Wasp on May 23, 2008 16:29:43 GMT
And where did those who wrecked Dublin at the love Ulster parade learn there hatred from? Where did those that made sure the OO and there followers in the south walk in the arse end of nowhere learn there hate?
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Post by collina on May 23, 2008 17:00:12 GMT
And where did those who wrecked Dublin at the love Ulster parade learn there hatred from? Where did those that made sure the OO and there followers in the south walk in the arse end of nowhere learn there hate? WASP, if you study recent court judgements you will see that most of the rioters were attacking the Gardai not the parade. Indeed such was one of the scumbags knowledge of the north, he called Charlie Bird an "Orange bastard"-So much for the indoctrinated hatred. I notice you didn't balance your remarks by referring to the OO parade in Rossnowlagh which takes place every year with no trouble at all. Could the victims of the Dublin/Monaghan bombings protest on the Shankill Road? I think not. And by the way the LoveUlster Parade was not an OO event. |
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Post by Wasp on May 23, 2008 19:08:24 GMT
The gardai were in the way of them attacking those who wished to take part in the parade. The verbal abuse and the violence is there for all to see.
Could you explain why they parade in Rossnowlagh instead of where they used to parade? Why in the arse end of nowhere?
Why the shankhill instead of Belfast city centre itself. Could the victims of ira terrorism protest on the falls or the bogside, I think not. Your comparisons are to say the least ridiculous unless of course you are comparing Dublin to the Shankhill road where loyalist terror groups have members and supporters and sectarianism has been on the forefront there during the troubles. If you are comparing Dublin to be similar then you may have a point but I don't think you would compare Dublin city centre with the Shankhill or the falls.
I already know that but what has that got to do with anything?
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